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stonebeard
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This isn't really, terribly related to gaming, but I'm upgrading my computer soon.
Asus P8H77-M Motherboard: $135 Intel i5 3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3 Ghz Quad-core processor: $210 And If I need a video card (probably do): EVGA GTX 550 Ti: $135 This plus some other stuff: $505 I'm still fine tuning and finding out exactly what I need/should get, but this should make me rather future proof for a few years.
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Alitare
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^I'd have to save up for nearly a year to afford those upgrades. That would involve refusing to buy ANY games of any ind for 8 months or so.
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Gamemako
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I need to get back up to speed on chips, but it seems odd that you're going for a lower-end video card on a gaming machine. An old 460 is a superior card and can be had for less anyway. Not sure about ATi's... ehrm, I mean AMD's comparable card, but they're usually better price/performance than nVidia in the first place. Put $600 into a brand-new system (i.e. case, monitor, and all) more than 4 years ago now, and I can still play everything released today, usually with maxed settings. Biding my time until the next wave of consoles pops and I suddenly need a lot more horsepower to run the rushed ports. |
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Triceratopsoil
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ATI does give you more bang for the buck, but for some reason they blow at antialiasing
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stonebeard
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Well it's not really a gaming PC. It's an audio production PC. I just might play games on it sometimes. In fact, I'm probably ordering this stuff tonight, minus the video card. The CPU has a GPU and the mobo has a DVI port, so I don't really need the card now anyway. If I can run things basically without the card, I will.
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Gamemako
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From the looks of things, no, you won't be able to use it for gaming in any capacity like that, except maybe some SNES emulation. Regardless, I'll trust you've done your homework on the matter. I haven't put together anything in some time, and I honestly focus on getting the most performance for my dollar regardless, so I habitually do things like buy good overclockers and unlock cores. For example, my chip has the 4th core unlocked and is clocked up by 25%, and it was already a good chip for the price. If you're not gaming, though, you probably just don't have need of the extra juice, and taking risks (as I did with the potential failure in unlocking that 4th core) just doesn't seem quite as wise. |
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SaltyJon
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So I've been playing more Skyrim again, along with Diablo 3. Skyrim is still fun, some annoying glitches disappeared while I was in BMT. D3 is as fun as I hoped for, and I've not had any problems with servers dying/etc while I've been on...only with my video card starting to die on me. I'm beginning to look into building a new PC as well, one which will be fully future-proof for at least another 6 years, and so far it's looking to be at least $1k less than when I built this one. Exciting times.
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Gamemako
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IMO, you should never try to future-proof yourself that far. Look for 3-4 years tops and upgrade incrementally. The mid-range chips are good enough and much cheaper than top-end stuff, and you'll be thanking the Gods you upgraded mid-way through that 6-year stretch. |
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SaltyJon
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Oh, I'm not going top of the line this time. Sticking with the 500 series Nvidia, only a quad core processor, no SSDs, etc. I tend to lean for the upper middle/lower high section of hardware, if that makes any sense.
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Gamemako
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I do the same thing. Running a 4830 in this box. It's just never worth it to buy the top-end stuff. |
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SaltyJon
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Yeah, I bought top end for the comp. I'm now using...it cost me ~$2500, and while it's lasted for a while (6+ years), that's a lot of cash.
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stonebeard
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For what it's worth, a lot of benchmarks I've seen place Intel quad core processors squarely above 6 and 8-core AMD processors. It seems Intel just makes better processors. For instance: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
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stonebeard
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I just realized the first post in this thread is about Shadow of the Colossus...when it first came out. I swear it wasn't that long ago...
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Triceratopsoil
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Not to mention the fact that most games can't take advantage of multicore processing |
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Gamemako
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Sweet Jesus, that's a lot. Hah, that's a grand more than my motorcycle cost me! I would never try to buy that far into the future. I remember when BioShock came out and everyone with cards that didn't support SM3 couldn't play it at all -- that included the likes of the X800-series cards that came out just two-and-a-half years earlier. And by that, I mean that I was one of those people.
Honestly, a lot of software doesn't support more than 4 cores in the first place. And while we're at it, you shouldn't look at metrics like clock speed and number of cores at all. Research benchmarks -- not just synthetics, but also real-world tests of things you plan to do -- and compare prices. That's what you really need. Heh, I remember when nVidia got busted doing some... optimization to inflate 3DMark scores. //EDIT: Hah, Triceratopsoil beat me to the punch on the cores thing. Edited by Gamemako - May 20 2012 at 22:42 |
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MillsLayne
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Time to play through the Mass Effect trilogy again! This time as a prick!
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stonebeard
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New CPU/mobo ...lol
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Alitare
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I've been playing through several PS2 games lately:
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time - Awful plot with some of the worst English voice-acting localization I've ever witnessed. The dungeon crawling, backtracking, and character design are all vilely abysmal. If the combat wasn't as competent as it is, I'd have stomped the damned thing into the dust a while ago. D+ Xenosaga I - Fair plot with some of the better English voice-acting localization out there. The symbolism, metaphor, and character design are all decent. If the combat wasn't so viciously lethargic and boring I'd actually try to finish the damn thing. I doubt I'll ever finish it, let alone move onto the sequels (which are viewed with even less favor). C+ Silent Hill 2 - I don't know what it is - the twisted, visceral character designs, the ever-imposing fog from hell/hazy visuals, the backward Nietzsche odes, the oft-poetic puzzles and riddles, or the fact that Pyramid Head makes every Saw film both unnecessary and shameful, but SH2 really gets my blood flowing. It is effectively the culmination of what the (traditional) Resident Evil series always wanted to be but couldn't. Resident Evil 4 may be the better-built game with more actual FUN going for it but as far as atmospherics and cerebral thrills go, Silent Hill trumps it without question. A- Cold Winter - The cult fans may claim it has a truly inspiring plot, but I wasn't interested enough after the first several hours of generic FPS stages with cardboard worlds to pursue that point. I'll nod in appreciation of the silly little 'scrap item' creation system, but it still ended up being a hokey gimmick in the end. C- Dragon Quest VIII - I've grown to utterly despise turn-based JRPGs (the term 'role-playing' in this context is a god-damned lie). I hate the inane stories with the same fantasy elements recycled to oblivion. I hate the overly common random battles and the slow action sequences with the same cheap skill sets repeated forever. I hate the protracted conversations and cut-scenes with about as much wit as a dying sea otter. It is to DQ8's testament, then, that I actually had so much fun with the manacled thing. There's enough tongue-in-cheek self-referential jostling for me to tolerate the plot and there's enough distancing itself from its past for me to tolerate the ill-devised combat. Aw hell, the characters were pretty cool, too. B+ |
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Gamemako
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Epic win. My Windows score is limited by my hard drive. |
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Alitare
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My laptop is at an overall 5.2 right now, with Graphics being the weakest link.
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