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manofmystery 
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 Posted: March 20 2012 at 22:52 |
I agree that there is a ton of lazy tackling and that players need to focus on wrapping up. Maybe it's because all of todays players grew up watching the flashy Deion Sanders go his entire career without ever tackling anyone  .
NFL players are destined for a hard later life due to the strain they put on their bodies just getting ready to play every week.
If the league were to put together some sort of past-player/current-or-past-official panel to hand out punishments for "bad" hits after all a weeks games are played I would be fine with that but they need to stop penalizing entire teams and effecting the outcomes of games over split second judgement calls on an an ever changing rule. I'm sure you remember the completely ridiculous roughing the passer called on the Giants that kept what would become a Packers TD drive alive as they tried to make a comback. Officials are pissing their pants out there trying to avoid getting in trouble for letting something go unflagged. It's insane how compromised the integrity of each game has become because of one man. It's not enough that he completely let the Patriots off the hook for cheating their way to 3 Super Bowls win he has to micromanage the officiating in such a way that they can't do their jobs at all (not that they did that great before).
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 23:29 |
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Indeed, and even "soft" hits are still hits. Some of these dudes are small. I still cant believe Wes Welker is my size and goes out there. One hit from a linebacker and I'm dead.
Well I meant specifically helmet hits, I do agree the inconsistency of calls is horrid. I try not to dwell on it since I'm a fan but yeah, that first game was handed to the Pack on a silver platter and I think it's obvious. Rodgers and also Brees have been added to the golden QB list.
I do think nothing could be done about the 3 Super Bowls for it'd be a clusterf**k, but I did lose ANY respect for Goodell after he gave the Pats and wrist slap.
I try to just enjoy the game and not get pissed off with this stuff. To their credit, I thought the officiating was much better in the playoffs, a lot more "letting them play". Ironic it was after public outcry and goodell saying "officiating should be fair". The people can always have some sway if they complain enough!
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 12:05 |
Wow the judgment for the Saints' bounty involvement came down, and it's harsh. - Sean Peyton suspended for the year
- Saints' GM suspended for 8 games including inability to conduct draft day decisions or contract negotiations
- Greg Williams suspended indefinitely
- Saints docked the next two 2nd round picks and a fine
And Tebow is a Jet. First the front office gives an inexplicable extension and raise to one of the worst qbs I've ever seen two years before it being necessary. Now they bring in Tebow? Maybe Peyton didn't want to go there since the front office obviously suffers from a collective dementia.
Edited by Equality 7-2521 - March 21 2012 at 12:07
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 12:17 |
Whew...that punishment is a tough one. I assume Williams will be out for over a year being it seems he is the real focal point. Any idea who is going to coach the saints for the first six games at least? And whhyyyy??!God damn. Im no jet fan but I do live in the area...I can only imainge the tebow talk will be even worse now that he is close...... But lol @ the jets...first they sign Sanchez to a longish contract than they go and get Tebow. And I thought Miami had a bad off season! Time to go poke fun at my friends who are jet fans.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 12:22 |
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Sean Peyton is out for the entire year. I have no idea who will coach them for next season. I would assume he has to be fired. Samething with the Rams. They need a new DC now.
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 12:57 |
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Tebow in the big apple, ha ha
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 13:50 |
.....god damn it It was bad before, but living in the NYC Metro Area I will truly never hear the end of Tebow. I hope he bombs miserably and gets booted ASAP. I don't even care about the Jets but sh*t, I won't even be able to listen to sports radio like I love so much, gunna be Tebowmania 25/7. Yes, the stations will work another hour into the day to talk about Tebow! ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh And yeah, the pressure is now on Sanchez...with Tebow  "Hey 3 legged dog, you gotta step up if not we have a 2 legged dog waiting". I knew the Jets would like to take back their crown of biggest morons ever! Oh man the Jet fans are already so terrible, all we need is one of "Tebow's epic game winning comebacks" and it's f**kin over.
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 13:56 |
 timothy leary wrote:
Tebow in the big apple, ha ha |
And by Big Apple you of course mean Northern New Jersey. First Giant Stadium is turned into this drab, gray mess now we have to share it with that f**k Tebow. I need beer. We knew Peyton's penalty would be harsh, as it should be, and damn it was. Well, they can pull a New England and somehow turn this into a "us against the world" mentality Become reclusive, give interviews 3 words at a time, start cutting up your hoodies to say f**k you the NFL. Takes talent to turn your cheating into a statement against the league! Anywho, big day I guess. Saints have gotten their penalty, the second coming of Christ has been bestowed upon the Jets.
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 15:47 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Sean Peyton is out for the entire year. I have no idea who will coach them for next season. I would assume he has to be fired. Samething with the Rams. They need a new DC now.
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Well in theory the Vitt could coach when he comes back. Don't really know the logistics of all this but I assume constant switching of head coaches isnt the easiest thing in the world. And I doubt they will fire Peyton. Williams on the other hand maybe...no idea when he'll be allowed back in the nfl...but certainly wont be soon.
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 15:50 |
My favorite of the ones I"ve seen...not the cleverist of course...
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 16:01 |
Man With Hat wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Sean Peyton is out for the entire year. I have no idea who will coach them for next season. I would assume he has to be fired. Samething with the Rams. They need a new DC now.
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Well in theory the Vitt could coach when he comes back. Don't really know the logistics of all this but I assume constant switching of head coaches isnt the easiest thing in the world. And I doubt they will fire Peyton. Williams on the other hand maybe...no idea when he'll be allowed back in the nfl...but certainly wont be soon. |
EIther way they need a new coach. Either way, they're changing head coaches. It doesn't matter how hard it is. It's happening. It's already happened. You wouldn't fire him? Here's the situation. You have a manager who has knowledge of his subordinate committing an illegal act. He is warned about having the subordinate stop this illicit scheme. He fails to do so. As a result, the authorities detain him for one year while charging the business a sum of money and draft picks. How do you keep him? You just ignore what he did and let him ride out a year off? You change your system for a year then go back to him? If this happens in any other job, you're fired already. It's a disgrace to me if he remains the coach. He hurt the team through neglect. It's just as bad as hurting the team through poor coaching.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 16:02 |
Man With Hat wrote:
My favorite of the ones I"ve seen...not the cleverist of course... |
Funny but I think it's kinda breaking the censorship policy.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 16:12 |
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Yes, awfully ballsy of you MWH!
Ridiculous....Sanchez and Tebow. A dynamic duo of fail. The sad thing is of course Sanchez is better. He is at least a QB, that can throw and has shown the potential to be solid. With Tebow we've seen at best he can throw together 5 good minutes, or he can maintain a game with a lead. (Yet to lead a real comeback victory, where he usually just burns).
I wonder will they try to develop him? Because throwing him into a normal passing system will be a nightmare.
Jets like the Wildcat...did they grab Tebow just to use him for 10 snaps a game in wildcat?
With the fragile and immature psyche of Sanchez they brought in Tebow??? He won't push Sanchez and at worst he'll mess with Sanchez's head even more. The distraction will be huge.
The Jets are morons.
Other big news: Wonder if Spags will end up coaching the Saints for this year. Wouldn't mind, I'd like to see him coach a good team actually.
Also after the flak Goodell got from Spygate for going light (IMO accurate) he certainly did what was needed this time. Brought the hammer down hard on coaches, not that he has much respect but this saved any shreds of it.
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 16:16 |
Nobody is mentioning the Jets' best quarterback: Drew Stanton. 
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 16:18 |
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This year is only gunna get crazier with the draft coming up. The Luck Truck will be here soon.
I love how people get so enamored with athletic QBs.
Luck was THE sh*t. The best QB in years, a prototypical NFL ready QB, maybe the best since Peyton.
Now people want RG3! Obviously an athletic QB can be a good passer (McNabb, McNair, Culpepper) but soooo many, especially with huge college stats, are busts or mega projects. Cam Newton is a freak who came right out passing so well (and will only get better).
Luck is a decently athletic guy as well.
2012 is going to a be a crazy year for sure.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 16:38 |
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I think RG3 will be fine. He's not a project like Vick was.
Tebow trade may be voided.
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manofmystery
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Posted: March 22 2012 at 00:29 |
Summing up Wednesday's action:
The Jets have to have the dumbest front office in football.
I haven't followed the Bountygate thing too closely. That said, it is certainly clear that GODell is still a major piece of sh*t. Will anyone in the media have the balls to ask him about how compromising the integrity of games and entire seasons is only worth a slap on the wrist compared to the punishments he handed out yesterday? I guarantee that massive joke would have given the Saints a pass too if they'd have gone and licked his boots like Robert Kraft does. I'm not questioning the punishments but I am questioning what truely motived GODell to hand them down.
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Posted: March 22 2012 at 02:14 |
I agree with MoM on something...finally! The Jets have the dumbest front office in the NFL.
I think the Saints organization got what it deserved,putting out bounties and paying players to intentionally hurt other players is wrong on so many levels.And the NFL isn't done yet,they still promised that some players will be punished.Interesting to see who they are and what punishment they receive.
One question....why didn't the f**king Pats get similar treatment for Spygate?
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Posted: March 22 2012 at 03:01 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Sean Peyton is out for the entire year. I have no idea who will coach them for next season. I would assume he has to be fired. Samething with the Rams. They need a new DC now.
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Well in theory the Vitt could coach when he comes back. Don't really know the logistics of all this but I assume constant switching of head coaches isnt the easiest thing in the world. And I doubt they will fire Peyton. Williams on the other hand maybe...no idea when he'll be allowed back in the nfl...but certainly wont be soon. |
EIther way they need a new coach. Either way, they're changing head coaches. It doesn't matter how hard it is. It's happening. It's already happened.
You wouldn't fire him? Here's the situation. You have a manager who has knowledge of his subordinate committing an illegal act. He is warned about having the subordinate stop this illicit scheme. He fails to do so. As a result, the authorities detain him for one year while charging the business a sum of money and draft picks. How do you keep him? You just ignore what he did and let him ride out a year off? You change your system for a year then go back to him? If this happens in any other job, you're fired already. It's a disgrace to me if he remains the coach. He hurt the team through neglect. It's just as bad as hurting the team through poor coaching.
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Well yeah...but Idk if it's worth it for them to have two or more substitute head coaches in one season or just stick with whomever they pick in the beginning of the season. And I'm just saying I doubt hell by fired, not whether or not he should be fired. According to the "experts" he is close with the owners/big decision makers of the Saints and the players seem to respect him/feed off his energy/etc. Now this may change of course as the year goes on (esp if they go 15-1 and win a superbowl).
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Posted: March 22 2012 at 03:02 |
manofmystery wrote:
The Jets have to have the dumbest front office in football.
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Oh yeah. No question about it.
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