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manofmystery 
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 Posted: March 20 2012 at 13:23 |
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Good riddance. |
The philtadelphia comes out in Equality. Not as though this is a retiring Giant, Cowboy, or Skin that you had to see twice a year.
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manofmystery
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 13:24 |
Reposting due to page change:
manofmystery wrote:
I had interesting time killer for everyone: Put together your all-time team. I'd try to avoid using active players, if possible. Here is the depth chart (can use either 4-3 or 3-4 defense or both, if you want):
Offense:
QB
RB
FB
TE
LT
LG
C
RG
RT
WR
WR
Defense 4-3:
LOLB
ROLB
MLB
DE
DE
DT
DT
FS
SS
CB
CB
3-4:
LOLB
ROLB
ILB
ILB
DE
DE
NT
FS
SS
CB
CB
Special Teams:
P
K
Feel free to do a full depth chart with your backups, if you like. Will have mine soonish. |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 13:47 |
manofmystery wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Good riddance. |
The philtadelphia comes out in Equality. Not as though this is a retiring Giant, Cowboy, or Skin that you had to see twice a year. |
That's true, but Hines just had a hate me face which kind of amplifies it to almost NFC East level hate. I feel like I haven't seen nearly enough football in my life to do an all time list. I could do a current players list.
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manofmystery
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 14:43 |
Offense:
QB - Joe Montana
RB - Jim Brown
FB - Marion Motley/Bronco Nagurski (really don't consider Jim Brown or Earl Campbell true fullbacks)
TE - John Mackey
LT - Anthony Muņoz
LG - John Hannah
C - Mike Webster
RG - Larry Allen
RT - Forrest Gregg
WR - Jerry Rice
WR - Don Hutson
3-4:
LOLB - Lawrence Taylor
ROLB - Jack Hamm (would flip the two depending on which side is the QBs blindside)
ILB - Jack Lambert
ILB - Dick Butkus
DE - Bruce Smith
DE - Deacon Jones
NT - Joe Greene
FS - Steve Atwater
SS - Ronnie Lott
CB - Mel Blount
CB - Night Train Lane
Special Teams:
P - Sammy Baugh (will keep teams on their toes watching for the fake)
K - Matt Stover (I don't think this gigantic pain-in-the-ass ever missed a field goal against the Steelers)
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 15:27 |
First, 4-3 is the only way to go  and seconded with, I can only really vouch for players from 2004 on (or the general time period) My all time list would just be all the big names. Most of which I know of but have never even seen highlight clips of. Though I would have to pick Barry Sanders for my all time RB because he was on the Lions....imagine him on the Bears or Cowboys! Even more behind an all time o line? An unstoppable force! Ah yes, I wonder how Pat felt after the retirement of Michael Strahan, my guess is not quite as happy as Donovan McNabb 
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manofmystery
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 17:19 |
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Actually, I don't think with Sanders style of running that his numbers would have been that different with better teams. Emmitt Smith was the type of runner that needed a ridiculous o-line to be great, Barry Sanders was not.
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manofmystery
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 17:20 |
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You could do an "of my lifetime" list.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 18:39 |
I hated Hines mostly because we had to see him twice a year (not like the Bungles were anything worthwhile most of the time anyway). Also because I still think he's a dirty player. I will sigh and shake my head on the day he makes it into the HoF. Where's Robert's blue smh smiley when you need it? 
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manofmystery
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 18:55 |
Anyone who hits hard is a "dirty" now. He broke one of your boy's jaw on a clean hit, as I recall, and the league overreacted and changed the rules. Such a sissy slap game now.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 19:05 |
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Well when your defense incapacitates a certain unnamed quarterback in a playoff game (say around 2006 or so) by going at his knees (and IMO ruining the rest of his career), you tend to be accused of certain things.
Although I do agree that there are a lot more restrictions on certain hits. I would draw the line with shots at the knees or head, but that's about it. We're going to be going to professional flag football at the current rate.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 21:02 |
Yeah the whole "dirty" thing annoys me. It's known that I believe Harrison is a dirty (and lazy) player. He plays to hurt, not tackle. He tries to take you out, and while MoM won't admit it....if you watch he always lowered his head to go for a blatant hit. He even admitted to not following the rule! Ward is aggressive, maybe (like Suh) it gets the best of him. That's not dirty. Flozell Adams from the Cowboys was dirty. I believe he was the most penalized player in history, mainly holding and personal foul calls and had quite a habit of...."accidentally tripping" Giant players. God I never thought I'd hate a lineman
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manofmystery
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 21:37 |
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Harrison makes what would have been considered textbook hits before GODell was commish. Also, the "rules" are completely ambiguous from week to week now. Harrison could care less about taking someone out. He just goes full speed into his hits and what happens happens.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 21:46 |
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The rules are ambiguous, but the rules against helmet-to-helmet are not. It's a part of the game that needs to be changed.
Who cares though because THE EAGLES TRADED FOR AN IMPACT LINEBACKER.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 21:50 |
manofmystery wrote:
Harrison makes what would have been considered textbook hits before GODell was commish. Also, the "rules" are completely ambiguous from week to week now. Harrison could care less about taking someone out. He just goes full speed into his hits and what happens happens. |
Noo, I'm getting into it again but just gunna focus on the highlighted part. You admit it, he admits it...like it or not it's the rule and he blatantly says screw the rule, and he gets upset about being suspended? You truly would not care if someone made a blatant hit right to Ben's head? What if he misses 6 games because of it, while a hit to the chest would've been brushed off? (And still a sack) If not, you are really one conservative b*****d I never want someone to be seriously hurt, but I hope Harrison does one of his helmet hits and misses a whole f**kin year because of it.
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 21:52 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Who cares though because THE EAGLES TRADED FOR AN IMPACT LINEBACKER.
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Yeah I'm pretty pissed, you finally have a linebacker.
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manofmystery
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 21:58 |
Now you're pissing me off. I didn't admit anything. I say the rules change from week to week and it's "you admit he's breaking the rules". I say he could care less about "taking someone out" and he's head hunting. You sicken me. I don't accept your bassackwards premise to begin with so I'm not playing your little game.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 22:02 |
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Oh fine, but I was sincere about the question.
Would you honestly not mind if someone did the same to Ben?
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manofmystery
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 22:25 |
Ben gets hit in and around the head a lot and it's rarely called. Ngata punched him in the face, breaking his nose, a two years ago and nothing was called. Terrell Suggs hits Andy Dalton in the head and then horse collar tackles him on the final play of a game last year and it goes completely untalked about. There are no real rules, the league selectively enforces everything and makes up rules that suit their interests as they go along. Let the players play the damn game. I think it's completely asinine that all of a sudden everybody believe that players can completely control how and where they will be hitting someone if they are both travelling at full speed. You guys are all eating GODell's bullsh*t with a serving spoon. Harrison is not trying to contact helmets or end careers he's just hitting the player with the ball at a high rate of speed as was celebrated for the leagues first 75+ season. Of course I'd be upset if someone blatantly clubbed Ben in the head but it just doesn't happen that way. Given Ben's tendency to hold onto the ball for way too long he's far more likely to go out like Joe Theismann (a perfectly legal hit by LT, by the way).
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 22:34 |
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Fair enough.
And no I really do not like helmet to helmet to hits. I also think it's a bit lazy since you no longer need to wrap up and tackle. I also don't like the "shoulder hits" you see all the time because many players just shake it off and burn you. Lazy ass tackling, but that's less dangerous. Hey man it's a violent game, guys still get messed up all the time, even with how soft its become a lot of these players will need wheelchairs and become half robotic in their older days.
I just think it's fine to cut down where possible. Hard hits are fine, and if helmets hit too bad. If it's blatant, I'm fine with it being called in that case.
You are right it's inconsistently called and yes a lot of the clean, hard hits are also getting penalized and it's BS
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 22:37 |
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As for Pat, certainly a good pick up. D jax has his money now. All is good. This has to be the year though.
Right or wrong, if Philly fails expectations (whatever they may be) Reid is goooooone
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