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I have always wanted to DJ a prog radio show and even made up a few set lists years ago if i could do so. I would play half old prog classic era, and half the more modern prog of recent years-

Essential songs (from my set lists for radio):

THE BEST OF PROG ROCK RADIO (90 MINUTE SHOW)

 

SHOW 1 – MASTERS OF PROG ROCK

 

1.    2IST CENTURY SCHIZOID MAN – KING CRIMSON

2.    CYGNUS X-1 – RUSH

3.    KARN EVIL 9 – ELP

4.    MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE – HAWKWIND

5.    BY-TOR AND THE SNOW DOG – RUSH

6.    LARK’S TONGUES IN ASPIC PT 2 – KING CRIMSON

7.    ORGONE ACCUMULATOR – HAWKWIND

 

SHOW 2 – CLASSICS OF PROG ROCK

 

1.    WORKING MAN – RUSH

2.    LIVING IN THE PAST – JETHRO TULL

3.    MARINE – KING CRIMSON

4.    LONG DISTANCE RUNAROUND – YES

5.    SUPPER’S READY – GENESIS

6.    PSEUDO SILK KIMONO – MARILLION

7.    KAYLEIGH – MARILLION

8.    TARKUS – ELP

9.    INDISCIPLINE – KING CRIMSON

 

SHOW 3 – TREASURES OF PROG ROCK

 

1.    TURN IT ON AGAIN – YES

2.    THE GRUDGE – TOOL

3.    AND YOU AND I – YES

4.    TAKE A PEBBLE – YES

5.    ANESTHETIZE – PORCUPINE TREE

6.    HEARTBEAT – KING CRIMSON

7.    ANTHEM (LIVE) – RUSH

8.    DUCHESS – GENESIS

9.    KNIFE EDGE – ELP

10. SILVER MACHINE – HAWKWIND

 

SHOW 4 – DARK AND AMBIENT PROG

 

1.    KILLER – VDGG

2.    TO RID THE DISEASE – OPETH

3.    A CHANGE OF SEASONS – DREAM THEATER

4.    BLACK NAPKINS (LIVE) – FRANK ZAPPA

5.    EMPIRES NEVER LAST – GALAHAD

6.    OILY WAY – GONG

7.    STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN (LIVE) – LED ZEPPELIN AND PINK FLOYD

8.    THE KILLING HAND – DREAM THEATER

9.    IN MY TIME OF NEED  - OPETH

 

SHOW 5 – STRANGE AND UNIQUE PROG ROCK

 

1.    WE WILL ROCK YOU – QUEEN

2.    LOVE TO LOVE YOU – CARAVAN

3.    DEATH WHISPERED A LULLABY – OPETH

4.    KOBAΟA IS DE HάNDΟN - MAGMA 
DA ZEUHL WORTZ MEKANΟK - MAGMA
NEBΛHR GUDAHTT - MAGMA 
MEKANΟK KOMMANDΦH - MAGMA 

5.    BOING BOOM TSCHAK – KRAFTWERK

6.    MUSIQUE NON STOP – KRAFTWERK

7.    HALLELUWAH – CAN

8.    THIS IS A MANS WORLD – THE RESIDENTS

9.    HELLO SKINNY – THE RESIDENTS

10. HIT THE ROAD JACK – THE RESIDENTS

11. FLIGHT OF THE BUMBLE ROACH – THE RESIDENTS

12. COMMERCIAL ALBUM (6 TRACKS) – THE RESIDENTS

 

SHOW 6 – ETERNAL STATEMENTS OF PROG ROCK

 

1.    GYPSY – URIAH HEEP

2.    CTHLU THLU – CARAVAN

3.    LOVE TO LOVE – UFO

4.    SYMPATHY – MARILLION

5.    WINDOWPANE – OPETH

6.    NIGHTS IN WHITE SATIN/ LAMENT – MOODY BLUES

7.    LATE NOVEMBER – PAVLOV’S DOG

8.    STASH – PHISH

9.    THE BIG MEDLEY (LIVE) – DREAM THEATER

 

SHOW 7 – MUSICAL PROWESS OF PROG ROCK

 

1.    ASTRONOMY DOMINE (LIVE UMMAGUMMA) – PINK FLOYD

2.    AMERICA/ SECOND AMENDMENT – THE NICE

3.    RADAR LOVE – GOLDEN EARRING

4.    HOCUS POCUS – FOCUS

5.    WHITER SHADE OF PALE – PROCOL HARUM

6.    INNUENDO - QUEEN

7.    CARRY ON WAYWARD SON – KANSAS

8.    HYSTERIA – MUSE

9.    TOCCATA – SKY

10. THE BOB MEDLEY – ROXY MUSIC

11. THOUGHTS OF EMERLIST DAVJACK – THE NICE

12. A CHRISTMAS CAMEL – PROCOL HARUM

13. A CRY FOR EVERYONE – GENTLE GIANT

14. SEQUENT C – TANGERINE DREAM

15. HIGH HOPES – PINK FLOYD

 

SHOW 8 – PSYCHEDELIC MIND BENDING PROG

 

1.    FREEFALL – CAMEL

2.    OXYGENE PART 4 – JEAN MICHEL-JARRE

3.    WILLIE THE PIMP – FRANK ZAPPA

4.    GAMES WITHOUT FRONTIERS – PETER GABRIEL

5.    RUNNING UP THAT HILL – KATE BUSH

6.    IMIGRANT SONG – LED ZEPPELIN

7.    GHOST OPERA – KAMELOT

8.    SONG OF A BAKER – THE SMALL FACES

9.    KARMA POLICE – RADIOHEAD

10. POOLS OF BLUE – BARCLAY JAMES HARVEST

11. REVOLUTION – TOMORROW

12. MY WHITE BICYCLE – TOMORROW

13. SPONTANEOUS APPLE CREATION – ARTHUR BROWN

14. SOUND OF THE APOCALYPSE – BLACK BONZO

15. KNIGHTS OF CYDONIA – MUSE

16. THE CLAIRVOYANT – IRON MAIDEN

 

SHOW 9 – EPICS OF PROG ROCK

 

1.    MOON IN JUNE – SOFT MACHINE

2.    A PLAGUE OF LIGHTHOUSE KEEPERS – VDGG

3.    A TAB IN THE OCEAN – NEKTAR

4.    A CHILD IN TIME (LIVE) – DEEP PURPLE

5.    A SONG WITHIN A SONG – CAMEL

 

SHOW 10 – THEMES AND CONCEPTS

 

1.    ASHES ARE BURNING – RENAISSANCE

2.    HOLD YOUR HEAD UP – ARGENT

3.    THE RAVEN – ALAN PARSONS PROJECT

4.    DEATH WALKS BEHIND YOU – ATOMIC ROOSTER

5.    SMASH THE MIRROR – THE WHO

6.    IMPRESSIONI DI SETTEMBRE – PFM

7.    EASY LIVIN’ – URIAH HEEP

8.    DAY 10: MEMORIES – AYREON

9.    DAY 11: LOVE – AYREON

10. THE WIDOW – THE MARS VOLTA

11. LEAVEN – PROTO-KAW

12. HYPERDRIVE – DEVIN TOWNSEND

13. SURFING DOWN THE AVALANCHE – SPOCK’S BEARD

14. MAYHEM/ CRADLE TO THE GRAVE – NEAL MORSE

 

 

 

SHOW 11 – REVOLUTIONARY AND GROUNDBREAKING PROG

 

1.    IL BANCHETTO – PREMIATA FORNERI MARCONI

2.    THE KETTLE – COLOSSEUM

3.    THE KING WILL COME – WISHBONE ASH

4.    UN MUSICIEN PARMI TANT D’AUTRES – HARMONIUM

5.    SPEAK – QUEENSRYCHE

6.    THE DANCE OF MAYA – MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA

7.    BACK STREET LUV – CURVED AIR

8.    STARALFUR – SIGUR ROS

9.    PEACHES EN REGALIA – FRANK ZAPPA

10. KOBAH (LIVE) – MAGMA

11. YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON – VANILLA FUDGE

12. MOYA – GODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR

13. COME ON BABY DANCE WITH ME – SHAKTI


  
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yOU COULD ALSO HAVE SPECIALS oops... specials on each sub genre... Italian, Krautrock, Symphonic, Space Rock, Prog Metal, proto prog, RIO etc etc.... if you needed Cds to play I am sure there are heaps of people who could lend them or borrow from libraries. Its a great idea and i would definitely do a show if i had the resources. I have enough music but have resigned to the fact its just not going to happen. My friend hosts a Proggish show each Sunday and its here:

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AtomicCrimsonRush - THANK YOU!  You've given me some music to listen to, because even though my collection is gigantic, I haven't heard some of those things.  And that was exactly what I was looking for.
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I used to have a university radio show but they sacked me for saying f**k too many times even though they gave me a midnight to 4 or 5 in the morning slot. I would just bring in a pile of albums and play anything that was weird. I played sh*t like Cluster, Agitation Free and Egg. All kinds of crazy stuff that people wouldn't be familiar with. So I would try to stay away from stuff that people would have in their collections. People are going to want to listen to a radio show that has suprises. I played "Stone In" by Guru Guru once and people were calling in like crazy wanting to know whe the freak the band was and how they could get it. That's my two cents. Best of luck and don't say f**k on the air.

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Edit the songs and make a mash-up. It may appeal to fans of the remix genre!

It'll piss of prog purists, but they don't need an hour-long introduction to their style, do they?


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I made myself a prog CD which might give you some idea. It went:
- Shine on you Crazy Diamond 1-5 (Pink Floyd).
- The Court of the Crimson King (King Crimson).
- Tarkus edited: Eruption; Stones of Years; Battlefield (ELP).
- And you and I (Yes).
- Firth of Fifth (Genesis).
- Thick as a Brick - Live, from "Live Burstin Out" (Jethro Tull).
- Starless (King Crimson); here I used the live version from Collectible King Crimson Vol 1, CD 1.
Unfortunatley, my list goes over 70 min. However, as far as I understand, this are the very bigest names from british prog in the 70's.
Another collection I want to burn myself, with songs from the same bands, but kind of harder (and perhaps they even were kind of "hits").

- 21st Century Schizoid Man (King Crimson).
- Aqualung (Jethro Tull).
- Money (Pink Floyd).
- Roundabout (Yes).
- Karn Evil 9, 1st Impression, part 2 (ELP).
- In the Cage (Genesis).
- Red (King Crimson).

And I believe this may even fall shorter than 60 min. The reason why I use King Crimson twice in this lists, it because they were technically a different band, with only Fripp as the common member.

Another list that may contain some of the most beloved Prog pieces from the 70's:
- Tarkus (ELP).
- Thick as a Brick, part 1 (Jethro Tull).
- Close to the Edge (Yes).
- Supper's Ready (Genesis).

...unfortunatley, this list goes just over 80 minutes. If you leave out one of this epics, you would just get your 60 minutes... but which one to leave out?
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If you are serious about doing a History of Progressive Rock show, then the first show (or two) should be about the pre-1970, for lack of a better word, progression towards full blown Prog Rock. Here is a list that comes in at 59 minutes & 30 seconds:

1. Tuesday Afternoon (with orchestral bridge to next song) - Moody Blues (8:48)

While not strictly Progressive Rock, their use of the Mellotron and an Orchestra backing made new groups think about combining rock and classical music without the use of an orchestra.


2. Peaches En Regalia - Frank Zappa (3:39)

Zappa diving into Fusion from the Rock side of things.


3. Interstellar Overdrive - Pink Floyd (9:41)

One of the earliest examples of Space Rock.


4. Hope For Happiness/Joy Of A Toy/Hope For Happiness (reprise) - The Soft Machine (8:19)

Merges psychedelia and jazz/rock. While you can play the first song, "Hope For Happiness" (4:21), I like playing the first three as one song. I merged them into 1 mp3 on my I-pod.


5. Dear Mr. Fantasy - Traffic (5:44)

While still having the pop touch in the style of The Beatles's Sgt. Pepper album, they were combining in Blues rock, Indian music, and extended jams. One of the proto Eclectic Prog bands.


6. Repent Walpurgis - Procol Harum (5:04)

This is a Bach-influenced song that should not be overlooked in the history of Prog Rock.


7. Kings and Queens - Renaissance (10:55)

Symphonic Progressive Rock with Jazz influences. One of the few Prog bands with a female singer.


8. 21st Century Schizoid Man - King Crimson (7:20)

Most of these songs came out in 1969 and signaled the end of the Hippy generation. The musical Hair which came out the year before amounted to a celebration where everyone was already heading for the door. But, this album out of all of them marks the true end of the 60s and paves the way for other bands to explore progressive rock. Yes abandoned the path of their first two albums. Genesis abandoned the Bee Gees style music of their first album. and some highly experimental groups such as Van der Graff Generator and Magma came down like a bolt from the sky.
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Good list...but...the problem is that we're paying the radio station for each hour...and we're not rich. I want to get from the 70's up to 2000 in an hour. But I wish we could take our time and do an hour for each decade.
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Why don't they pay you? I don't get i. What sort of demographic is this station trying to reach ? Depends on the time slot. You don't want to be playing " Im Suden" by Cluster during rush hour. I don't really think it's possible to extrapolate progrock in a one hour time frame. The mash up idea is good for one hour as thehallway suggests. I think it will be your only way out. Or just select shorter prog pieces or single versions if you can get your paws on them. There was even a press package EP  for Tales From Topographic Oceans that featured sections of each epic track that I came across once in a record store back in the 70s. Should have grabbed it.
I think that I could pull off a decent synopsis of progrock from the seventies through to the present day in one hour using shorter tracks and cut down versions.. I would conclude by telling the audience that you were just scratching the surface and there is a lot more where that came from.




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Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

The local NPR station in my town has done a promotion for a number of years where they let people play DJ for an hour if they donate a certain amount of money.  Me and two buddies of mine have made it a tradition to buy an hour and do a Progressive Rock hour.
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I had to tell off the lady in charge of KBOO here in Portland about 10 years ago ... when she was asking me to tell her in 5 minutes the "social significance of progressive music" ... which is something she asked everyone of the shows she had scheduled in her "station". KBOO is still the most pretentious of stations around Portland! And the way that music and the stuff is presented over there is so "street" styled, that it makes NY and London look like Paradise!
 
All in all, I can tell you the example with Guy Guden in Santa Barbara, who took an amazing beating from a couple of folks that are best being forgotten, but his show endured for over 25 years ... and deserved to, for having played the widest array of music anywhere and the single greatest list of imports (these were called imports then in America) ever ... where too much of the rest of the folks did not see a lot of these things as music ... they saw it as another hit on the radio and Golden Earring was not "rock'n'roll" ... to which Guy had to say ... who cares ... it's great music!
 
All in all, it's hard on a show with your ideals to get something done right ... but take the top ten off this board (do not repeat the artist!) and play one piece from that album ... and fill up the hours likewise ... you will endup with a lot more than 2 hours if you respect the length of the pieces, but you will have a show, that when you record it for yourself, is something to be proud of.
 
To many of the shows at KBOO and other NPR stations, it becomes a venue for giving your friends and countrymen a listen a little more, and while there is some merit to that, in the end, the music itself suffers a lot more because they are not interested in the music, and sometimes too much on the culture itself ... and "art" is not a culture that it wants to involve itself in at NPR ... unless you are in Los Angeles or San Francisco where those outlets have been famous for turning the knobs and not being automatons and small timers at all.
 
This is about you ... and the music you know and believe in. Any suggestion we make becomes superfluous ... but I would probably not play DT or Rush ... in the first 3 hours ... there is way too much to fill in those 3 hours and Rush is already 2nd generation "progressive" and while I have a lot of respect for Dream Theater and some of their work, I'm not sure I would have enough time to fit them in. Maybe on the third show, or the 5th or 6th hour I would play something from that album with an Orchestra, the album the few people like that shows the musicianship that "progressive" folks are known for and usually admired for their outstanding musical abilities. And deservedly so.
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Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Why don't they pay you?


Because 1) it's the local NPR station trying to raise money and 2) wake up, most people don't care about prog rock! ;-) How long have you listened to the genre and you don't know that?
We're just doing this to try to introduce people to the genre who otherwise would have never heard if it and because we love this music. And we have ideas for the next show, I just thought it would be fun to see how other people would pull it off.
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Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Good list...but...the problem is that we're paying the radio station for each hour...and we're not rich. I want to get from the 70's up to 2000 in an hour. But I wish we could take our time and do an hour for each decade.


That's tough, The period from 1969 to 1974 would take several hours. And, an hour would not do justice to a lot of long Progressive Rock songs. I could do many hours where each hour would be only one or two songs. But, since you challenged me, I came up with the following set that clocks in at 60:02. I am sure you can shave a couple of dead air seconds off to get it to 60 minutes flat...

1. 21st Century Schizoid Man - King Crimson (7:20) - 1960s
2. Perpetual Change - Yes (8:50) - 1970s
3. Dancing With The Moonlit Knight - Genesis (8:01) - 1970s
4. Knife-Edge - ELP (5:08) - 1970s
5. So Sincere - Gentle Giant (3:52) - 1970s
6. Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd (5:34) - 1970s
7. Red Barchetta - Rush (6:08) - 1980s
8. The Great Escape - Marillion (5:02) - 1990s
9. There Is More To This World - The Flower Kings (10:07) - 1990s

I wanted to fit "I Am The Sun" by The Flower Kings since it is from an album published in the 2000s, but it was too long.



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Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Why don't they pay you?


Because 1) it's the local NPR station trying to raise money and 2) wake up, most people don't care about prog rock! ;-) How long have you listened to the genre and you don't know that?
We're just doing this to try to introduce people to the genre who otherwise would have never heard if it and because we love this music. And we have ideas for the next show, I just thought it would be fun to see how other people would pull it off.


I'm in Montrιal and there is still a last bastion here. Used to be really big in the 70s even the early 80s. I didn't get paid for the university station ( which I'm returning to this summer ) but they gave me all kinds of promos from record companies that nobody at the station wanted including lots of stuff from revisited records.
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Thanks for taking the challenge firstlensman! And that's a pretty good list too, by the way!
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Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Edit the songs and make a mash-up. It may appeal to fans of the remix genre!

It'll piss of prog purists, but they don't need an hour-long introduction to their style, do they?

 
I can relate to the idea ... but it doesn't help magnify or cement the music and its history.
 
My biggest concern is someone simply playing their favorite 5 bands, and the rest of the music is ignored. I, personally, do not feel that Rush or Dream Theater bring a whole lot to the realm of "progressive" that had not been done before ... but I will always respect their quite obvious excellent ability and talents.
 
But yeah ... sometimes playing the weirddest and the strangest and the stuff tht you don't know, and neither does anyone else, is often the best solution ... you know why? ... a few months later you know better how to mix and match things and make for a more enjoyable listening experience, instead of yet another "radio jock moron" out there that is not even listening to what is being played ... because they play the hits, not the music ... and herein is the secret ... make sure you play the "MUSIC" ... not necessarily the "hits".
 
The first "mind melts" I ever heard were in Los Angeles's KPFK station with a guy named "Captain Midnight" and he used to make the weirdest and most off the wall mixes ever ... but I remember hearing many off the wall things in there that I chased down later for what they were ... progressive or bs or not!
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Originally posted by firstlensman firstlensman wrote:

1. 21st Century Schizoid Man - King Crimson (7:20) - 1960s
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I probably would no longer use this at all ... why? ... it's over played and it's meaning is worthless these days ... and folks are afraid of discussing it ... because it doesn't mean anything to anyone anymore and today, just about no one in this board has "nothing to fight for" ... except music ... not the freedom that it stood up to, and the noise that it made fun of!
 
I would rather have played the piece about the Wind ... or Epitath ... as a way of saying that 40 some years later ... nothing has changed ... and this is the power, strength and beauty of the majority of "progressive" that we refuse to give credit to these days in favor of a lot of noise and loud guitars that supposedly mean something or other ... but the words are vague and innocuous and a lot of doggy do about nothing -- that we call progressive ... because we don't know what the term means!
 
If anything ... and I would like to stress this ... make sure that what you play is about the real "meat" of what progressive is ... not an idea, mind you ... and go from there.
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Just play Crimson man, it's easy. Start from In the Court and work your way to The Power to Believe, everyone's happy.
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I thought you wanted to do 70's prog, not all decades. I guess it would be best to choose one (or two) of the most representative songs of prog from each decade.
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

2.    AMERICA/ SECOND AMENDMENT – THE NICE
 
No way .... you gotta follow this up with YES'  version of America ... which was the piece that really got them noticed here, before the YES ALBUM came out. FM radio liked playing that version even though it was not in their first two albums, but the radio stations in LA (klos-knac and kmet) all had the promos.
 
I probably would cut down the repetition of the same groups/bands, and spread things around more with Japan, Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Spain and many other countries that also had progressive music ... but very few of us ever spent time listening to them.
 
Again ... a show about favorites is NOT a progressive music show ... it's a show about one's favorites, the way I look at it. Or some idea that we mold/blend to make it seem progressive ... when in reality  half of it is not. This is what two thirds of the radio shows in that Live 365 thing calls progressive are all about.
 
They are not interested in anything trully progressive, and progrock.com is nowhere near progressive. It is way too hit oriented with things sounding the same!
 
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Points: 18005 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2012 at 10:49
Hi,
 
I'm putting together a "favorite" pieces thing that will go on my website. Some of it is progressive, and some of it is so progressive that some folks here will never hear it due to their "style" preference and thing ... and we will go from there ... but one thing I can tell you about ... at least 5 countries in the first 10 pieces ...
 
I was thinking of taking the Missa Luba and mixing it with the Pipes of Pan, and add one of them Andy Summers guitar things, and call it something off the wall, and say this is the brand new progressive thing ...
 
Hehehe!
Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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