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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 11:20
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Still, I find Lady Gaga's "music" unlistenable. She's just  manafactured product fo people who know nothing about music.


I personally think that's a little harsh - I may not like LGG's music, but I can see the appeal; I think there is a fair degree of talent behind the hype and the image (all of which is pretty much borrowed from old Madonna videos then stuck through a 'R' rated filter). Sure it's manufactured, but she knows exactly what she's doing.

No problem with her at all.

Not only that, but,  what the hell is the "music knowledge" that people would have to be able to ignore Lady GaGa? Knowing a few prog bands? Oh yes that's knowing music. 

I understand that pop music is in a way selected for the masses by the labels and media who decide what to push and how to push it while ignoring other acts. But please don't think that without this veil all people in the world would suddenly group together like a flock to hear, listen, venerate and adore progressive rock. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 11:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 11:24
Kim 3 is the best Kim ever 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 11:25
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 12:20

alright alright I'm done!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 12:21
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Kim 3 is the best Kim ever 

and yes. Agreed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 12:40
Kim chi is the best Kim ever........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 12:44
I was going to comment about Lady Gaga but then I realised the topic had completely changed to which North Korean dictator is best.

But I'll go anyway.

My mother thinks lady gaga is incredible, because she can play piano. And I'm like "so what"?

Her latest album was designed to make profit, 4 or 5 catchy singles with good melodies, the rest of the album, honest sh*t. It really shows how the idea of an album isn't cared about any more, because artists make all their money from singles.

Another thing is. Is that she claims Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are her favourite bands, and her biggest influences are Elton John and David Bowie…. So why does she write such sh*t? If she was really being true to her music, she would write an album in the style she performs it, acoustic, on a piano. But that doesn't make much money. So she doesn't do it. It's just pathetic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:03
Cant imagine way we are interested in this at all, does it matter what stunts media pull to sell pop music.
Cant be a surprice after 50 years of pop radio/TV, that they promote whatever the industry tells them.
If a freaking 2 years, sold billions of albums playing 2 cords, media would shout wonderchild.  
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:03
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Still, I find Lady Gaga's "music" unlistenable. She's just  manafactured product fo people who know nothing about music.


I personally think that's a little harsh - I may not like LGG's music, but I can see the appeal; I think there is a fair degree of talent behind the hype and the image (all of which is pretty much borrowed from old Madonna videos then stuck through a 'R' rated filter). Sure it's manufactured, but she knows exactly what she's doing.

No problem with her at all.

Not only that, but,  what the hell is the "music knowledge" that people would have to be able to ignore Lady GaGa? Knowing a few prog bands? Oh yes that's knowing music. 

I understand that pop music is in a way selected for the masses by the labels and media who decide what to push and how to push it while ignoring other acts. But please don't think that without this veil all people in the world would suddenly group together like a flock to hear, listen, venerate and adore progressive rock. 


I couldn't give a damn what anybody else listens to. I listen to all kinds of crap. I f they want to listen to this donkey face then that's their prerogative. But all she has going for her is her outrageousness. It baffles me why Howard Stern likes her but has slammed Madona so much in the past on his radio and TV shows. Lady Ga Ga's " music " panders to musically illiterate audiences wheras jazz, classical and some progressive rock is embraced by educated and somewhat better educated audiences.

I did a biography for the band Janus with co-operation with Colin Orr  here on PA better known for 1972s Gravedigger  back in 2010. On a 2002 CD they had a 15 year old female vocalist Nathalie Brown that just blew me away. The track Slave Girl & Owner is available for streaming in the Janus entry.check it out . There are literally hundreds of these prodigies in every corner of the planet. Nevena from Bulgaria is another example she did a verson of Omega's Girl With the Pearls In Her Hair that even freaked the band out.

All donkey face has going is her stupid stage act and her goofy costumes.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:04
My missus thinks she is wonderful.

Thus, when she has a concert on TV, revenge is taken on me for perpetual prog, and it is shown.

I retreat to the safety and comfort of my study and prog archivesWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:07
^ Unlike Iron Maiden and Judas Priest..........I doubt 20yrs from now she will be performing live
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:11
I'd like to see donkey face at 7 o'clock in the morning, no makeup, no coffee
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:13
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

^ Unlike Iron Maiden and Judas Priest..........I doubt 20yrs from now she will be performing live
I bet 20 years fom now, she be lucky to be alive
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:13
^ Does it really matter that she's ugly? Shouldn't focus on how unimaginative her music is? Actually we should JUST POST MORE PINEAPLLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:14
I'm really stretching this joke aren't I?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:15
yup
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:25
point taken
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:32
But then again if you watch MTV's "Best musicians and artists of all time", seems like 99% of them in their list is your Lady gaga's, Madonnas, Coolio, Ice T, Snoop Dog, Eminem, Justin Bieber, etc... and with incredibly thought-provoking lyrlcs like "Yeah baby baby baby baby baby, come and gimmee", how can you disagree with their overflowing talent?   Mostly always just American pop stars.  Sure you have your few token UK name acts like Rolling Stones, Beatles, Zeppelin, U2, The Who but they don't really wander outside of that territory.
 
You'll never hear any italian or french or south american or japanese or swedish, etc.. acts in their lists...   Me thinks it's because MTV is being paid by the American networks/music business who release all of the bands in the "top 100 lists", etc...   No money to be made trying to endorse Le Orme (who has good pop stuff which sounds better to my ears than Lady Gaga pop).
 
Basically, "you scratch my back and I'll put you on our 'top 100 best artists of all time' program designed to brainwash the viewers into thinking the only bands worth listening to and buying are the one's we advertise in our 'top 100' lists  :-)
 
Don't gimmee that 'top 100 artists' of all time stuff  :-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 13:39
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I'd like to see donkey face at 7 o'clock in the morning, no makeup, no coffee
 
So you pick your music based on how attractive the singer / band is?  Bit odd for someone who likes prog.  Generally, prog fans tend to look past image!  Although, some of us appreciate a bit of theatricality and she certainly doesn't lack on that. 
 
She is talented.  She has different ideas on how to present herself, and I like that.  If she continues on the same theme like Madonna, she could easly be around for 20 years.  However, I am a bit disappointed in recent stuff being bog standard hi-energi ultra conservative disco.  I did think she had a bit more about her but I may be wrong. 
 
In the end I'm not bothered one way or the other.  Her stuff is for young girls and boys who want a laugh.  Like many pop star before her and there is a place for that.  One day she may do her Ray of Light.
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