Forum Home Forum Home > Topics not related to music > General Polls
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Poaching - do you think it is ok/fine
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedPoaching - do you think it is ok/fine

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 7>
Poll Question: do you think poaching and hunting of animals is bad
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
19 [82.61%]
4 [17.39%]
This topic is closed, no new votes accepted

Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
rogerthat View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer


Joined: September 03 2006
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 9869
Direct Link To This Post Topic: Poaching - do you think it is ok/fine
    Posted: February 17 2012 at 04:16
Elephants, tigers, rhinos...etc...very bad.   Not against culling (but I don't know that there are many wild animal species left in large enough numbers to have to be regularly culled) or putting man eaters to sleep (though it's better if they could capture them and let them live in captivity instead).  
Back to Top
CPicard View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Là, sui monti.
Status: Offline
Points: 10841
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2012 at 17:51
Yeah, I know: basically, eggs are nothing but non fecundated ovulas. So, scrambled eggs are just like scrambled... Uh, I will let you figure this out...
Back to Top
akamaisondufromage View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
Status: Offline
Points: 6797
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2012 at 13:13
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I only eat chicken in the egg. So, I can be nearly sure it hadn't been fed with garbage.


How does that change anything? It's still being fed garbage unless it's free range.


I meant that I ate unborn chicks which are still in the shell.

Not being a biologist, I don't know how you feed an aviary foetus through the said shell.


The nutritional content comes from that of the mother. If the hen is being fed garbage, then the eggs has been made of garbage. If you see the yoke of an undyed commercial egg (or even one that is dyed) and a real chicken egg you notice an immediate difference.


Ah.
So, the sole remaining problem is: is it right to eat animal babies?
 
Most chicken eggs especially commercially produced are not fertilized so ....
Help me I'm falling!
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 18:53
And who will stand up for the baby corns?
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

Back to Top
CPicard View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Là, sui monti.
Status: Offline
Points: 10841
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 18:39
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I only eat chicken in the egg. So, I can be nearly sure it hadn't been fed with garbage.


How does that change anything? It's still being fed garbage unless it's free range.


I meant that I ate unborn chicks which are still in the shell.

Not being a biologist, I don't know how you feed an aviary foetus through the said shell.


The nutritional content comes from that of the mother. If the hen is being fed garbage, then the eggs has been made of garbage. If you see the yoke of an undyed commercial egg (or even one that is dyed) and a real chicken egg you notice an immediate difference.


Ah.
So, the sole remaining problem is: is it right to eat animal babies?
Back to Top
Equality 7-2521 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
Status: Offline
Points: 15784
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 17:07
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I only eat chicken in the egg. So, I can be nearly sure it hadn't been fed with garbage.


How does that change anything? It's still being fed garbage unless it's free range.


I meant that I ate unborn chicks which are still in the shell.

Not being a biologist, I don't know how you feed an aviary foetus through the said shell.


The nutritional content comes from that of the mother. If the hen is being fed garbage, then the eggs has been made of garbage. If you see the yoke of an undyed commercial egg (or even one that is dyed) and a real chicken egg you notice an immediate difference.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
Back to Top
CPicard View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Là, sui monti.
Status: Offline
Points: 10841
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 16:53
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I only eat chicken in the egg. So, I can be nearly sure it hadn't been fed with garbage.


How does that change anything? It's still being fed garbage unless it's free range.


I meant that I ate unborn chicks which are still in the shell.

Not being a biologist, I don't know how you feed an aviary foetus through the said shell.
Back to Top
timothy leary View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 29 2005
Location: Lilliwaup, Wa.
Status: Offline
Points: 5319
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 15:39
portland cement mixed with cracked corn and a dab of peanut butter and a bowl with water nearby
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 14:29
Originally posted by Matthew T Matthew T wrote:

 
I will admit though I am a rodent genocidal maniac. Mice or rats are all executed with no appeals allowed.
 

Poison or neck breaking traps?
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

Back to Top
Matthew T View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: February 01 2007
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 5291
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 14:02
Live and let live for me.
 
I will admit though I am a rodent genocidal maniac. Mice or rats are all executed with no appeals allowed.
 
Love wildlife and we need all we have. I do fish very occasionally but when I do not throw it back it is eaten.
Matt

Back to Top
Tapfret View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: August 12 2007
Location: Bryant, Wa
Status: Offline
Points: 8581
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 13:30
^I only hunt free range eggs...so very hungry Cry
Back to Top
Equality 7-2521 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
Status: Offline
Points: 15784
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 12:11
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I only eat chicken in the egg. So, I can be nearly sure it hadn't been fed with garbage.


How does that change anything? It's still being fed garbage unless it's free range.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
Back to Top
refugee View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: November 20 2006
Location: Greece
Status: Offline
Points: 7026
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 10:34
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I have a hunter's head in my living room.... 


I’ve already quoted the first stanza of Tom Lehrer’s The Hunting Song, but since you posted this, I’ll give you the end as well:

And there’s ten stuffed heads in my trophy room right now,
Two game wardens, seven hunters and a purebred Guernsey cow.
He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
(Peter Hammill)
Back to Top
Proletariat View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 30 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1882
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 10:24
I prefer game or locally raised meat, it dosn't have to be free range (I know many many farmers and ranchers who raise or have raised both free range and not and they tell me its a useless distinction) I eat local not because it is somehow healthyer but because:
a) hunting is enjoyable and usefull skill
b) its nice to know where my food comes from, same reason I garden
c) if I am going to buy my food its nice to know it supports the local economy and not some bloated corperate machine intertwined with fat beaurocrats and politicians
d) its fresher... and somehow yummyer (i feel dumb using that word but its true)
e) I like odd cuts of meat. (if you dont eat any tounge, liver, heart or blood you are missing out on all the best parts)
who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
Back to Top
The T View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 10:07
I have a hunter's head in my living room.... 
Back to Top
CPicard View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Là, sui monti.
Status: Offline
Points: 10841
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 06:29
I only eat chicken in the egg. So, I can be nearly sure it hadn't been fed with garbage.
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2012 at 17:01
I only eat properly mechanically separated meat.  To hell with the damn free range.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2012 at 15:23
Tasty though.
What?
Back to Top
timothy leary View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 29 2005
Location: Lilliwaup, Wa.
Status: Offline
Points: 5319
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2012 at 14:55
Hence.........mystery meat
Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2012 at 13:45
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

That's why I said unless. I was saying that caged chickens that most people consume are not feeding on meat. 
Sorry - misread what you said... or to be more accurate, read what you said and misunderstood it.
 
As Tim said, some chicken feed contains meat products - how prolific that practice is is questionable given current public opinion on livestock feed. In Europe and the UK farming is changing, I assume this is true of America too. Barn and factory chickens are fed on cheapest products available. Corn and soy is cheaper to produce than meat, but the meat used is the machine reclaimed stuff (MRM) that goes in hot dog sausages and as that's basically a waste product it's cheaper still. However, much of what you hear about is all speculation and guessing.
What?
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 7>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.141 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.