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Poll Question: do you think poaching and hunting of animals is bad
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Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

And, obviously, taking away anything's life just for fun or sport, is ridiculous.



Don't criticize until you try it.

Does that apply to murdering humans too??


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How did we get to this point in only three pages?
 
It's a simple poll on poaching, not a general poll on hunting, or culling, or killing animals for sport, or the immorality of factory farming and the omnivorous diet or about comitting murder.
 
Once again Christoffer's attempts to get straight forward opinions on a simple straight forward question gets reduced to a pro vs anti hunting argument.
 
Not all hunting is poaching - and by some weird twist of semantics, not all poaching is hunting.
 
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Actually Dean, read the interior question of the OP again.....it is about hunting my friend.  Embarrassed

Poll Question: do you think poaching and hunting of animals is bad


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^ You are correct Jim, I was re-reading Christoffer's previous thread on the same topic at the same time and read the wrong OP.
 
Still, the same applies - it two different topics, two different questions so two answers are possible. It is okay to be against poaching and pro-hunting.
 
And I'll stand by my comment - how do we get to the immorality of factory farming and the omnivorous diet and about comitting murder from a poll on poaching and hunting?
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ You are correct Jim, I was re-reading Christoffer's previous thread on the same topic at the same time and read the wrong OP.
 
Still, the same applies - it two different topics, two different questions so two answers are possible. It is okay to be against poaching and pro-hunting.
 
And I'll stand by my comment - how do we get to the immorality of factory farming and the omnivorous diet and about comitting murder from a poll on poaching and hunting?

Factory farming vs poaching vs hunting for food vs hunting just for sport.  The first needs to be reformed.  I don't like number two or four.  No problem with number three.
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I always will remember,
’Twas a year ago November,
I went out to hunt some deer
On a morning bright and clear.
I went and shot the maximum the game laws would allow,
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.

(For the record: I’m with the majority on this one.)
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Actually Dean, read the interior question of the OP again.....it is about hunting my friend.  Embarrassed

Poll Question: do you think poaching and hunting of animals is bad

Why would you want to hunt your friend? Tongue
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Actually Dean, read the interior question of the OP again.....it is about hunting my friend.  Embarrassed

Poll Question: do you think poaching and hunting of animals is bad

Why would you want to hunt your friend? Tongue
To put me out of my misery. Unhappy
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Actually Dean, read the interior question of the OP again.....it is about hunting my friend.  Embarrassed

Poll Question: do you think poaching and hunting of animals is bad

Why would you want to hunt your friend? Tongue
maybe said fiend is a mean badass who likes to be hunted i dunno
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ You are correct Jim, I was re-reading Christoffer's previous thread on the same topic at the same time and read the wrong OP.
 
Still, the same applies - it two different topics, two different questions so two answers are possible. It is okay to be against poaching and pro-hunting.
 
And I'll stand by my comment - how do we get to the immorality of factory farming and the omnivorous diet and about comitting murder from a poll on poaching and hunting?

My fault.

But does it matter?

Conversations naturally alter their course..... especially when one topic has become redundant.


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Hunting these beasts are not for fun nor for food, but still necessary (although we seem to have lost already):

http://www.nps.gov/ever/naturescience/burmesepython.htm
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^ Why is it necessary?

So they eat all the other animals.......   well that's what we humans do. Survival of the fittest. We farm...... pythons can't farm, so in their case, hunting is justified. There is nothing unnatural about it whatsoever.

Ecosystems sort themselves out. If the snakes eat too much, they will then see a lack of food, and die accordingly, enabling their prey to breed properly again, and so on. Yes, they belong in India, but the Florida environment obviously suits them. I wish them all the best.


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Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ You are correct Jim, I was re-reading Christoffer's previous thread on the same topic at the same time and read the wrong OP.
 
Still, the same applies - it two different topics, two different questions so two answers are possible. It is okay to be against poaching and pro-hunting.
 
And I'll stand by my comment - how do we get to the immorality of factory farming and the omnivorous diet and about comitting murder from a poll on poaching and hunting?

My fault.

But does it matter?

Conversations naturally alter their course..... especially when one topic has become redundant.

Not your fault - I know this is how this particular topic develops because this is always how it develops, and alas, always this quickly. I don't believe the topic had become redundant: For once I would have liked it to stay on the topic of "poaching" for just a short while so we could find out, for example, whether "hunters" see protected species as "fair game" and gain their views on restrictions on hunting, either as closed seasons during breading or in total due to rarity or threat of extinction or because the animals are the property of someone else or because the land they inhabit is owned by someone else.
 
 
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Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

The food argument won't cut it anymore.

Obviously, nature works in such a way that you survive by eating other living things. Fine. 

We used to hunt to be able to survive. Fine.

In 2012, can any human on the planet (minus tribes) survive without hunting? YES.

So, we don't need to do it anymore. If we shared what we farmed properly, the world actually has TOO MUCH food.

And, obviously, taking away anything's life just for fun or sport, is ridiculous.



What's the difference between hunting a deer and raising a cow to be slaughtered?
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To put it bluntly, I am repulsed at anyone who hunts for sport.
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By the way, the thread's title and the question in he poll are contradicting each other...
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I've poached salmon before, but generally I'm against the practice.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I've poached salmon before, but generally I'm against the practice.
I assume that's you in your avatar when you were poaching salmon...
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Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

^ Why is it necessary?

So they eat all the other animals.......   well that's what we humans do. Survival of the fittest. We farm...... pythons can't farm, so in their case, hunting is justified. There is nothing unnatural about it whatsoever.

Ecosystems sort themselves out. If the snakes eat too much, they will then see a lack of food, and die accordingly, enabling their prey to breed properly again, and so on. Yes, they belong in India, but the Florida environment obviously suits them. I wish them all the best.



The problem is that humans have introduced a new species that doesn’t belong in this ecosystem. It has no natural enemies, and it kills all the other species. Still you have a point, and I guess we can’t teach the pythons to farm either … and the fight against them seems futile. The Everglades will never be the same again.
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Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Actually Dean, read the interior question of the OP again.....it is about hunting my friend.  Embarrassed

Poll Question: do you think poaching and hunting of animals is bad

Why would you want to hunt your friend? Tongue
maybe said fiend is a mean badass who likes to be hunted i dunno
 
You have to be vice-president to hunt your friend.
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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