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Poll Question: do you think poaching and hunting of animals is bad
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    Posted: January 31 2012 at 10:32
what are your opinions about poaching animals like Pandas, Tigers, Crocodiles, Rhinos, Elephants, Snakes or any other animals,

or trophy hunging, do you think it is okey that rich people spend alot of money to shoot down the big 5 of African wildlife, or is it nothing you would suport casue it is imoral, do you find bad treatment towards animals imoral or is moral only between humans,


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 10:41
Should I vote based on the question or the thread title? I think it's bad and not okay, k
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 10:44
You know the one thing I respect Ted Nugent for is that he hunts for food and doesn't slaughter for trophies as far as I know.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 11:12
I see nothing immoral about it. If you hunt for trophy, yet just waste the food, I find that a bit questionable. I see nothing wrong with killing an animal for sport though. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 11:14
Even endangered animals?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 11:16
Of course it is bad.  I loathe anyone who voted "no"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 11:19
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Even endangered animals?

Trophy hunters seek out endangered animals because that is what makes them a trophy.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 11:51
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Of course it is bad.  I loathe anyone who voted "no"


I see  a lot wrong with it. Hunt them with cameras. Preserve life when possible. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 12:45
We've had this conversation before.
 
Do not equate poaching with hunting. Poaching is taking something from the wild that doesn't belong to you, often for profit but not necessarily - it can be just for food, and the term can apply to plants as well as animals.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 12:48
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Of course it is bad.  I loathe anyone who voted "no"


So a native in Namibia spears a oryx and that's bad to you?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 12:50
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Even endangered animals?


It depends on the circumstances. It could be immoral.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 12:53
Hunting for the sake of it (or sport if you want to call it that) I am against.
If you honestly hunt for food (no idea but I'll say a very small sliver of the US and even most "industrialized" countries) then fine. People need to eat to survive.
OR even if you hunt just for sh*ts but use the food...well I don't like it but at least it's not being wasted.

Pure sport? No, sorry. I don't get it and find it deplorable. A "man overcoming nature" thing I guess, or showing how big you are. What's the appeal? You can try to slice it a nicer way but it's killing life, for absolutely no reason.

And if you're gunna do it, at least go hunting "for real". Not like the stuff you see at Cabellas or Bass Pro Shop...those sniper perches  you can set up in a tree, sit back, drink some beer with your buds and just wait for an animal to run by. That doesn't even have the "thrill of the hunt" just sitting back killing things!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 12:56
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Of course it is bad.  I loathe anyone who voted "no"


So a native in Namibia spears a oryx and that's bad to you?


How many Namibians hunt oryxes? I'm not familiar with the food market in Namibia.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 13:10
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Of course it is bad.  I loathe anyone who voted "no"


So a native in Namibia spears a oryx and that's bad to you?


How many Namibians hunt oryxes? I'm not familiar with the food market in Namibia.


The country is home to many tribes which have not entered really any semblance of modern society. They hunt to survive despite the animal being endangered.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 13:12
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


OR even if you hunt just for sh*ts but use the food...well I don't like it but at least it's not being wasted.




What's the difference between buying a ground meat and steak for a month at a supermarket or hunting for sport and freezing the venison to eat over the next month?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 13:21
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


OR even if you hunt just for sh*ts but use the food...well I don't like it but at least it's not being wasted.




What's the difference between buying a ground meat and steak for a month at a supermarket or hunting for sport and freezing the venison to eat over the next month?


Not sure I follow. I'm fine with it if used for food. If you kill a deer and store it for a month that's fine.
Hunting for sport is just that. If you use the meat, either for yourself or I guess for a supermarket then it's at least going for someone.

Sorry if I misunderstand but yeah, I just don't agree with hunting just for the sake of it.
Not that it could/should be made illegal, I just think it's wrong personally.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 13:21
Healthier than frying.  But for larger animals I would oven roast (Slowly).
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 13:25
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


OR even if you hunt just for sh*ts but use the food...well I don't like it but at least it's not being wasted.




What's the difference between buying a ground meat and steak for a month at a supermarket or hunting for sport and freezing the venison to eat over the next month?


Not sure I follow. I'm fine with it if used for food. If you kill a deer and store it for a month that's fine.
Hunting for sport is just that. If you use the meat, either for yourself or I guess for a supermarket then it's at least going for someone.

Sorry if I misunderstand but yeah, I just don't agree with hunting just for the sake of it.
Not that it could/should be made illegal, I just think it's wrong personally.


I'm just saying in your quoted passage you say that you don't like it. I'm saying it really makes no difference if you don't waste the food no matter the reason that you actually killed the animal.

I agree that I find wasting the animal to be distasteful. I feel the name way about clothes with holes in them, day old milk, food that falls on the floor, etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 13:28
Well of course.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2012 at 14:41
I usually only hunt and poach mosquitos.
 
 
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