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FireOnHigh91
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Hi, I'm new to the forums but I've been scouring the site since forever - It has helped me discover so many more great prog bands (thanks!) - Anyway, at the moment i am desperately searching for Italian bands / albums musically similar to Jacula and Antonius Rex (preferably from the 70s). Aside from the Jacula / Rex discography I can't find any bands or albums with a similar sound from that period - and I've listened to PLENTY of RPI. So who have they influenced?? Finnforest, your many reviews have been very helpful so I figured I'd ask you or anyone else who can help.
-Thanks, any questions just ask
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Finnforest
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^Akron comes to mind first, though not 70s. Dark and cool stuff.
Antares is cheesy and spacey, but two tracks were written by Bartocetti and I can hear some Ralefun-era vibe running through it, I like it. Hero is one we were just discussing that you might like. Three Monks is organ heaven. Surely you know Balletto di Bronzo already. Orne, Goad, Persimfans, Metamorfosi, early Battiato are all worth a listen if you're not familiar. Just off the top of my head, if I think of others I'll edit this post. Edit: Oh, and where were my manners? WELCOME to the Den!! Edited by Finnforest - January 02 2012 at 08:26 |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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verslibre
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I don't suppose this was ever issued on CD...? |
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hellogoodbye
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MADRUGADA : Underrated band ? The more I listen to those two records, the more I consider them as a good second choice for a RPI collection. The first album (1974) is an interesting mix of cool jazz, sounds effects and CSN vocal harmonies : The second one ( 1976) is more " avant garde", with some free jazz moments. I like both. |
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Mr James
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"Incastro" is a worthy lp.
First sucks donkey.
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Guldbamsen
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They sound very interesting - thanks Jim! That track reminds me so much of Germany in the mid 70s that it´s uncanny. Pretty cool stuff. I just realized something - Hero are included in the (in)famous Nurse With Wound list - which I have been collecting albums off during a couple of years. Some of the albums are most definitely not for everyone(read: not for anyone who isn´t on mescaline and rum and slightly disturbed beforehand), but Franco Battiato fx came into my collection - after finding him on there. Afterwards I found him on PA, and I really haven´t looked back since So yeah, again thanks for the rec Jim - I know this sounds silly, but seeing as these guys are featured on The list - my expectations just went up a notch Quite ridiculous and futile, I know - but yeah I can´t really explain... For those of you who are interested and not scared off by weird and off kilter music, I give you a slightly revised edition of NWW: http://rateyourmusic.com/list/dacapo/the_nurse_with_wound_list_of_steven_stapleton__john_fothergill__and_heman_pathak_ |
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hellogoodbye
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Nice list, David ! Well known names, unknown names, strange names, scary names ... but for sure friendly names.
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Todd
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Regarding the various releases, I refer you to Augusto Croce's Italian Prog site www.italianprog.com
Roberto Genco's album was just reissued on CD--a nice album, though not earth-shattering
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hellogoodbye
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GLI ANALOGY (1972) Maybe someone could be interested by this psyche rock album. |
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hellogoodbye
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LOGAN DWIGHT 1972). Another Psyche Rock album with beatles influences. Nice Guitar, Violin, Cello and flute.
Adorable female voice. Reissued in CD By Akarma in 1999. |
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hellogoodbye
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MAURO PELOSI (1977 album) Review :
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Finnforest
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David, really enjoying your review!
Volo Magico N. 1 Claudio Rocchi Rock Progressivo Italiano
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Guldbamsen
East meets West.
Going back to the mid 60s bands like The Beatles and The Stones were already exploring the strange and wondrous sonic thematics of the far east. The altogether different tonalities of the instruments - let alone the feel of the music, had these western teenagers mystified and deeply enthralled. There was a good deal of soul searching going on, mental boundaries broken down with the help of drugs and meditative processes, but slightly boiled down, the fact of the matter was, that many people who ventured out beyond the confines of western societies and that way of thinking - musicians and travellers combined, - were searching for something different than what their old world was teaching them. A way of inter webbing all these new ideas emerging from the new pop culture - into something old and wise. Buddhism and guru teachings and everything that was suddenly becoming popular in the western world, had been practised in the east for centuries. Most people were going straight to the horses mouth so to speak, - and Claudio Rocchi was indeed one of these searching individuals. While he may have ended up in the ranks of Hare Krishna - leaving his musical carreer behind towards the end of the 70s, we as the listeners were truly pampered by another trade of his that he brought back from the lands of Buddha, and that was his love of the music. Straddling a high flying bird - Rocchi´s music is a mixture of folk rock with an eastern tinge. The feel of the acoustic guitars is somewhere between Ganges and Venice, and these are a real treat on Volo Magico N. 1. They sound crisp and earthy, and with these small eastern phrasings incorporated into the mix, the album gets a certain idiosyncratic layer to it. You can certainly pick up that Italian vibe from the guitars as well, but what really shines through is the perfect interplay happening here between east and west. When these rather droning raga aspiring sections have played themselves out, you´ll often get ethereal multi layered choirs - sung in a way that really makes you feel a part of the over atmosphere. They´re delicate and beautifully eerie, like some strange vocalizations coming out of the mist. Most of all, Volo Magico N. 1 is a terrific psychedelic album. Yes it´s packed full of classically ebullient piano playing, massive loads of mellotrons and gorgeously sung Italian vocals, which by all means should be pointing towards an early symphonic RPI album, but Rocchi is ever more focused on the trip and the alluring bewilderment of the psych pastures - leading you on a musical journey through Asiatic forests with towering golden Buddhas looking down on you. Another thing sprucing this album up, and setting it apart from many psychedelic albums of the time, is the diversity of the instruments. We have small snippets of harmonica taking you back to those old western movies. The pianos of this record is highly reminiscent of what you´l find in bands like Le Orme and Il Volo, and that classic serene touch of these notes spread out on the different tracks here works much like a refreshingly icy shower after a serious bender. All these differentiating ingredients alter the all too conventional road of what just might´ve been a run of the mill psychedelic album, and takes it to another level. Rocchi´s voice is an original one to boot, and while he may sport the same sort of fragility of several other artists inside the Italian domain, he has an altogether different sounding crackling in his vocals. He sounds coarse - almost raspy at some point during Volo Magico, and I guess it has something to do with his deep immersion into the lyrical aspects, but again the deeper meanings of the Italian language is sadly lost on me - except for when he passionately sings: Amore!! Luna!! and I´ll tell you straight away, he does so with a fantastic intonation and feel, that you´ll feel transported back in time instantly, back when such things meant the world, and people could talk for days on end about amore and luna without turning fire-engine red in their faces. My favourite parts of this album along with the charismatic singing, are the sudden outbursts of electric guitars ornamenting these long accumulating eastern psychedelic pieces - helping the music - transforming the track and setting it free with a pair of brand new wings. Another thing is the sound of the percussion on the title track. Man this bongo drum, or whatever it is, is just amazing! Sounds like an inverted wooden bathtub with a natural embedded echo effect - just to add that reverberating feel to the rhythm section. Sweet! So come on you guys - come ride with me on this Italian elephant travelling all the way beyond the red eastern sunrise - to a place where pasta once originated, and Zen is something you aspire for - not something you can buy at the local Yoga centre for a quick buck. Edited by Finnforest - January 07 2012 at 10:02 |
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Guldbamsen
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Thank-you Jim. That means a lot to me.
I have been listening to this one along with Essenza for the last couple of months. You know me and psych music I love this stuff!! |
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Finnforest
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Oh, and I meant "reviews" not review. Plural, all of them! You write with great natural enthusiasm for the music and have a flair for good description which I enjoy.
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Guldbamsen
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You are making me blush now... But thanks again my friend - you are most too kind.
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hellogoodbye
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Beautifull review David. I still dance on one foot with this album. Your words are great help to touch the ground ... and reach the skies.
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Guldbamsen
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Thank you Pierre - I hope you will come around to Rocchi´s psychedelia. He´s well worth it
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hellogoodbye
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GROSSO AUTOMNO : ALMANACCO (1977).
I really like this quiet album. Makes me think of the short songs on the Stefano Testa's masterpiece. More songs : |
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Finnforest
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Listening to a little Paese di Balocchi this morning.....mmmm...mmmmm good.
Lizzy, another album for your classical-inspired list would be Banco's "di terra"....some reviewers compare it to Stravinsky. There is an experimental jazzy component to it, but you might dig the orchestra.
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