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Poll Question: who do you think is best?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 10:26
Just thought I would include some reasoning.
Most of the great prog music in my opionion was
made during the 70's stateside and in the UK. The
chamber was in confusing in the castles in England.
And Rock n Roll P**** was everywhere in the states.
The record industry distroyed the creative talent
along with government monitoring and creativity
ceased to exist. The German scene got going later ,
mid seventies and lasted until the mid 80s, while the
continent popped up good acts here and there also
during this time period.
The reason some bands were not included, my
opionion:
Triumvirat - ELP knockoff, lyrics trying to sound tough
but no real depth
Eloy - never found anything great by them, although I
liked the nude album cover
Popul Vuh - Florian had good moments but to much
meddling around on a majority of his stuff
Rush - never a serious truly original band, Priest of
the temples of syrinx, is circled by horseflies and
Farewell to Kings and Moving ..... they almost made
something interesting. Neil Young was the best
thing to come from canada and a legitimate talent.
Bancos italian lyrics always got in the way for me,
and english version is to hard to get into the vocals.
Anyway thats why I dont consider those bands.
Horslips = irish Jethro Tull, try Book of Invasions for
those interested, better than any Steeleye Span,
Renaissance, etc. If you like that give Audience -
House on the Hill a spin.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 10:48

[QUOTE=DallasBryan]Rush - never a serious truly original band, Priest of
the temples of syrinx, is circled by horseflies and
Farewell to Kings and Moving ..... they almost made
something interesting. QUOTE]

Erm.....Confused

Rush-never a "serious" "truly original" band.Whilst you are entitled to your opinion as to the merits or otherwise of their work, the highlighted statement beggars belief. Rush have been releasing albums since 1974-that's 30 years in old money.Now whilst I will accept freely that the first 3 albums were derivative, I would be interested to hear your opinion as to which groups or sounds the bulk of their catalogue resembles? I would say that regardless of whether they are prog or not (another argument for another thread) they are probably the most distinctive rock band of the last 30 years. This is why they have survived so long-they are unique.

As for them not being serious or being taken seriously, I couldnt even hazard a guess as to your "logic".Dead

I love to take the piss myself, but I'm not sure that this is your intention. Further explanation required...Smile



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 10:58

I knew DallasBryan had it in for Rush..

I'm itching for a fight!!!!!!!! I shall resist and return to work..

Deep breaths..count slowly..1   2   3.......

Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:22
I'm entirely in your corner on this,Reed. Yes,you read correctly. I agree completely with you. Can I proceed or do you need more time to recover from the shock? To say that Rush is not original is quite ludicrous,if it's one thing they certainly are,it's original. This seems like a joke to me,I can't believe anyone in their right mind would doubt Rush's credentials as both one of the most original and serious (in terms of intelligence and depth) bands of the last 30 years.
Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:24

Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

I'm entirely in your corner on this,Reed. Yes,you read correctly. I agree completely with you. Can I proceed or do you need more time to recover from the shock? To say that Rush is not original is quite ludicrous,if it's one thing they certainly are,it's original. This seems like a joke to me,I can't believe anyone in their right mind would doubt Rush's credentials as both one of the most original and serious (in terms of intelligence and depth) bands of the last 30 years.

I'm so upset I'm going to withdraw from public life and become a hermit in Norway!Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:25

Todd Rundgren/Utopia

Who else voted Todd/Utopia? Come out spread the word of Todd!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:30
Focus got me into all of this. Focus got me into serious music. Jazz & classical. Prior to getting into Prog-rock I was only listening to Elvis in the early seventies. Focus gave me the opportunity to diversify my musical tastes, and I found them in progressive rock!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:44

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I was only listening to Elvis in the early seventies.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:50

'kin 'ell!!! Horslips made it in there!!!! The Irish are coming

and it's not just the way we're standing

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 14:35
Todd/Utopia gets my vote. He's made many mistakes along the way, but Rundgren can never be accused of standing still. Some of his early work especially is superb.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:15
No problem fellas
I consider progressive rock to exist for 3 main
reasons

1. for those who apprieciate science fiction, such as
Lord of the Rings, Dune and comic books. Basically
esoteric avenues for child fantasy and the pubescent
mind. The "I am Not Experienced" crowd.

2. experimental music avenues for complex
musicianship and overworking of speed verses
content music, and intellectual self indulgence.(most
jazz fusion, Gentle Giant could even fall into this
category). Not for the mainstream but musicians
who are over indulged in their art.

3. for a spiritual avenue to develop relations between
darkness and mans conscience thru occult,
hallucenagenic states, narcotic and sexual
experiences. Performed by advanced musicians that
carry an intellectual edge.

I am of the 3rd persuation and am not a true prog
head, as I dont consider it but one of the best
avenues in music for story telling or altered states.
My musical foundation was laid in the 70s and saw
most of you guys favorites many times as I was a
roadie working with VariLite during the 70s and early
80s. I have met 100s of your favorite musicians and
burned the house down. This is just my viewpoint
and I understand all will not agree.

I will never be a backer of Rush or U2 because I
consider them 2nd tier groups. I recognize the
impact they have had on some I just think it is the
difference in sci-fi verses the state of mans spiritual
or sexual condition and the stories of that interaction
in music .
2 types of popular bands - those who got it and
those who wish thy did!

Those who see my perspective should engage in
this conversion.
Those who dont , NO HARM INTENDED!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:18

[QUOTE=DallasBryan]
I will never be a backer of Rush or U2 QUOTE]

HOW CAN YOU PUT THEIR NAMES IN THE SAME SENTENCE?AAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:19
Look at all the advertising
Some kind of show, come if you?re going
Patronize the magic dragon
Walk through the door, kiss off your boredom
Tuning up the orchestra, bringing down the ceiling
lights
All at once the curtain goes up
Now it begins, strike up the band
Bring on the dancing girls and the freak parade
Look to your right where a gentleman sat
There sits a monkey in a tall silk hat
The lady on the left is now a pumpkin pie
That?s when you notice that your chair is flying
High in the sky out over the sea
But don?t wonder why, where else could you be but

Where anything can happen,
Down at the magic dragon theatre
More than you can imagine,
Down at the magic dragon theatre
(come to the magic dragon)
Do you fancy melodrama?
Tragedy?s mask, yours for the asking
Madness a la magic dragon

Who could that be at this time of night?
I?m sure we weren?t followed dr. klang
Wait, pull down your knickers, he?s going to hit us
Here goes your cue, don?t blow your line
Dam, danger! I?m gonna go out there and get, get,
get ...

All of a sudden there?s a flash of light
Stars begin appearing in a moonlit night
Your vision of reality has gone awry
That?s when you notice that your mind is flying
High in the sky out over the sea
But don?t wonder why, where else could you be but


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:20

MAGIC DRAGON THEATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I LOVE YOU

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:21
RA RA RA RA RA RA RA !!!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:28
Progressive Rock could also be brokedown into
seperate divisions:

1. flyweights

2. lightweights

3. heavyweights
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:29

Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

Progressive Rock could also be brokedown into
seperate divisions:

1. flyweights

2. lightweights

3. heavyweights

Musically or commercially?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:31
JEAN-LUC!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:37
RUSH breakdown
Alex Lifeson could of had a good career with a top
tier prog band, as well as Neil Pert, a wonderful
drummer.
Geddy Lee should have stuck to playing the bass
and left his fairytales in the fire.
With a good psychedelic songwriter and a
keyboardist or maybe a sax/flute player they could
have been something.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:40
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