BEST 70/80s PROG (OMIT UK)
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Topic: BEST 70/80s PROG (OMIT UK)
Posted By: DallasBryan
Subject: BEST 70/80s PROG (OMIT UK)
Date Posted: November 25 2004 at 22:24
    
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Posted By: Vegetableman
Date Posted: November 25 2004 at 23:26
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PFM all the way!! ------------- "Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?" "Progressive.... yeah, that's it..." |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 00:45
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TRIUMVIRAT Iván |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 02:30
| ELOY |
Posted By: Svein-Frode
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 03:34
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Norwegian 70s proggers Popul Vuh, later changed their name to Popol Ace (because of the German band). Released 4 albums. Their vocalist Jahn Teigen was asked by Genesis to replace Peter Gabriel in 1975! |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 03:53
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Yes,Popol Vuh (Ace) were good but as for Teigen being asked to replace Gabriel in Genesis,Tony Banks himself denies it and I think I trust his recollection a bit more than Teigen's. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 05:09
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Have not heard of many of these acts to be honest. Must be living with head up arse syndrome Anyway, I voted for Focus. Great band ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Petra
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 05:27
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Oh I don't know that many either I voted for TD ------------- Don't hate me I'm not special like you |
Posted By: Svein-Frode
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 05:29
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I think it was contact between Teigen and the Genesis management, though it might have been informal. |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 05:53
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Very informal,I think. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
The Genesis management may have had a few feelers out,but Tony Banks says that no concrete offer was made to anyone.Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 06:00
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Focus for me too but I notice that Rush and Saga were omitted. What this a snub to our Canadian chums? ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 06:22
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I bet it is a snub How on Earth could one forget Rush, even if they weren't a fan. They're Canadas finest IMO. Dont know much about Saga. I'll have to research them.. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
sigod wrote:Posted By: Svein-Frode
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 06:33
| Saga is a minefield, be sure to check out their earlier stuff first. Great synth/keyboard based prog. Everything up until and including Behaviour is worth a listen, after that I would only buy Generation 13 and Steel Umbrellas. The rest of their catalogue is aquried taste at best. |
Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 07:11
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Pity it's not possible to expand the poll list. But then there were so many good non-UK bands in the 1970s (BANCO, to give just one example). Of those in the poll list I've voted for PFM, which is one of my favourite Prog groups *including* UK bands.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 08:24
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Choosing between Focus and PFM was one of the hardest decisions I've had to make... But PFM get my vote! (Although I'd like to have seen Amon Duul II and Can in there, just to make the decision next to impossible |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 08:29
| rush made the most numerous excellent records |
Posted By: zappa123
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 09:37
| Focus for me. |
Posted By: EVO
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 09:44
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totally agree ------------- Live Long and Prosper... |
Posted By: Carlos
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 09:51
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LOVE OTHER BANDS THAT DOESN'T APPEAR HER, BUT FOCUS DEFINETLY ------------- Democracy=A form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people... 
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 10:07
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I'd go for PFM, then Focus, but I thought that poor, neglected, non-Archived Celtic proggers HORSLIPS deserved a vote. Their BOOK OF INVASIONS is a 70s prog classic! ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 10:26
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Just thought I would include some reasoning.
Most of the great prog music in my opionion was made during the 70's stateside and in the UK. The chamber was in confusing in the castles in England. And Rock n Roll P**** was everywhere in the states. The record industry distroyed the creative talent along with government monitoring and creativity ceased to exist. The German scene got going later , mid seventies and lasted until the mid 80s, while the continent popped up good acts here and there also during this time period. The reason some bands were not included, my opionion: Triumvirat - ELP knockoff, lyrics trying to sound tough but no real depth Eloy - never found anything great by them, although I liked the nude album cover Popul Vuh - Florian had good moments but to much meddling around on a majority of his stuff Rush - never a serious truly original band, Priest of the temples of syrinx, is circled by horseflies and Farewell to Kings and Moving ..... they almost made something interesting. Neil Young was the best thing to come from canada and a legitimate talent. Bancos italian lyrics always got in the way for me, and english version is to hard to get into the vocals. Anyway thats why I dont consider those bands. Horslips = irish Jethro Tull, try Book of Invasions for those interested, better than any Steeleye Span, Renaissance, etc. If you like that give Audience - House on the Hill a spin. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 10:48
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[QUOTE=DallasBryan]Rush - never a serious truly original band, Priest of Erm..... Rush-never a "serious" "truly original" band.Whilst you are entitled to your opinion as to the merits or otherwise of their work, the highlighted statement beggars belief. Rush have been releasing albums since 1974-that's 30 years in old money.Now whilst I will accept freely that the first 3 albums were derivative, I would be interested to hear your opinion as to which groups or sounds the bulk of their catalogue resembles? I would say that regardless of whether they are prog or not (another argument for another thread) they are probably the most distinctive rock band of the last 30 years. This is why they have survived so long-they are unique. As for them not being serious or being taken seriously, I couldnt even hazard a guess as to your "logic". I love to take the piss myself, but I'm not sure that this is your intention. Further explanation required... ------------- 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 10:58
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I knew DallasBryan had it in for Rush.. I'm itching for a fight!!!!!!!! I shall resist and return to work.. Deep breaths..count slowly..1 2 3.......
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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:22
I'm entirely in your corner on this,Reed. Yes,you read correctly. I agree completely with you. Can I proceed or do you need more time to recover from the shock? To say that Rush is not original is quite ludicrous,if it's one thing they certainly are,it's original. This seems like a joke to me,I can't believe anyone in their right mind would doubt Rush's credentials as both one of the most original and serious (in terms of intelligence and depth) bands of the last 30 years. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:24
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I'm so upset I'm going to withdraw from public life and become a hermit in Norway!
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Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:25
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Todd Rundgren/Utopia Who else voted Todd/Utopia? Come out spread the word of Todd! |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:30
| Focus got me into all of this. Focus got me into serious music. Jazz & classical. Prior to getting into Prog-rock I was only listening to Elvis in the early seventies. Focus gave me the opportunity to diversify my musical tastes, and I found them in progressive rock! |
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:44
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Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 11:50
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'kin 'ell!!! Horslips made it in there!!!! The Irish are coming and it's not just the way we're standing |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 14:35
| Todd/Utopia gets my vote. He's made many mistakes along the way, but Rundgren can never be accused of standing still. Some of his early work especially is superb. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:15
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No problem fellas
I consider progressive rock to exist for 3 main reasons 1. for those who apprieciate science fiction, such as Lord of the Rings, Dune and comic books. Basically esoteric avenues for child fantasy and the pubescent mind. The "I am Not Experienced" crowd. 2. experimental music avenues for complex musicianship and overworking of speed verses content music, and intellectual self indulgence.(most jazz fusion, Gentle Giant could even fall into this category). Not for the mainstream but musicians who are over indulged in their art. 3. for a spiritual avenue to develop relations between darkness and mans conscience thru occult, hallucenagenic states, narcotic and sexual experiences. Performed by advanced musicians that carry an intellectual edge. I am of the 3rd persuation and am not a true prog head, as I dont consider it but one of the best avenues in music for story telling or altered states. My musical foundation was laid in the 70s and saw most of you guys favorites many times as I was a roadie working with VariLite during the 70s and early 80s. I have met 100s of your favorite musicians and burned the house down. This is just my viewpoint and I understand all will not agree. I will never be a backer of Rush or U2 because I consider them 2nd tier groups. I recognize the impact they have had on some I just think it is the difference in sci-fi verses the state of mans spiritual or sexual condition and the stories of that interaction in music . 2 types of popular bands - those who got it and those who wish thy did! Those who see my perspective should engage in this conversion. Those who dont , NO HARM INTENDED!!! |
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:18
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[QUOTE=DallasBryan] HOW CAN YOU PUT THEIR NAMES IN THE SAME SENTENCE?AAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:19
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Look at all the advertising
Some kind of show, come if you?re going Patronize the magic dragon Walk through the door, kiss off your boredom Tuning up the orchestra, bringing down the ceiling lights All at once the curtain goes up Now it begins, strike up the band Bring on the dancing girls and the freak parade Look to your right where a gentleman sat There sits a monkey in a tall silk hat The lady on the left is now a pumpkin pie That?s when you notice that your chair is flying High in the sky out over the sea But don?t wonder why, where else could you be but Where anything can happen, Down at the magic dragon theatre More than you can imagine, Down at the magic dragon theatre (come to the magic dragon) Do you fancy melodrama? Tragedy?s mask, yours for the asking Madness a la magic dragon Who could that be at this time of night? I?m sure we weren?t followed dr. klang Wait, pull down your knickers, he?s going to hit us Here goes your cue, don?t blow your line Dam, danger! I?m gonna go out there and get, get, get ... All of a sudden there?s a flash of light Stars begin appearing in a moonlit night Your vision of reality has gone awry That?s when you notice that your mind is flying High in the sky out over the sea But don?t wonder why, where else could you be but    
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Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:20
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MAGIC DRAGON THEATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I LOVE YOU |
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:21
| RA RA RA RA RA RA RA !!!!!!!! |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:28
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Progressive Rock could also be brokedown into
seperate divisions: 1. flyweights 2. lightweights 3. heavyweights |
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:29
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Musically or commercially? |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:31
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JEAN-LUC!!! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:37
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RUSH breakdown
Alex Lifeson could of had a good career with a top tier prog band, as well as Neil Pert, a wonderful drummer. Geddy Lee should have stuck to playing the bass and left his fairytales in the fire. With a good psychedelic songwriter and a keyboardist or maybe a sax/flute player they could have been something.   
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:40
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:51
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There's safety in numbers
When you learn to divide How can we be in If there is no outside All shades of opinion Feed an open mind But your values are twisted Let us help you unwind You may look like we do Talk like we do -But you know how it is You're not one of us Not one of us No you're not one of us |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:52
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NO HARM INTENDED?????? You waltz on here on talk utter nonesense to us as if you are teaching us something. Those who see your perspective would have to have their heads up the same orifice as you---and being a proctologist I know that is dangerous, unhealthy and biologically impractical. Quote: I will never be a backer of Rush or U2 because I You talk about the seventies but your observations suggest you are just out of elementary school. What is that (^) garbage all about. Why even mention U2 on a Prog Rock forum? Apart from the fact that they are probably the biggest band in the world, like them or loathe them, they quite obviously belong to the "1st Tier" As for this: for those who apprieciate science fiction, such as Gdub and Peter just pretend to be inexperienced, loveless, loners.They are not really like that and you musn't judge all of us in the same vein. For myself I did have sex once, but lets face it it is overrated and messy. Quote: My musical foundation was laid in the 70s and saw How many trios go into 100's-33, 66,100? There weren't hundreds of bands of the Prog Persuasion touring in the late 70's and 80's!
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 15:57
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take your place
and enjoy the view |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 16:03
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some like the Monkees, some like the Beach Boys,
some like the Beatles |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 16:03
YAWN........................... -------------
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 16:36
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Extraordinary! Despite the fact that I like DallasBryans poetical style of writing tremendously, he's actually got me agreeing with Reed Lover with some of that content... http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZZzebYYY">
Fashion is style over content. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:04
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Canada's best contribution to prog
Michael Brook - Cobalt Blue |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:07
I am pretty sure that DB's style is more "cut and paste" than cut-and -thrust"
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:11
| maybe this should this be an over 40 poll? |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 28 2004 at 22:11
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Posted By: ShrinkingViolet
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 07:23
http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZZzebYYY"> Ooooo i'd have to go for Todd/Utopia . the music they produced was mind blowing. http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb048_ZZzebYYY"> |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 11:21
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I have to agree with Shrinking !!!!!!
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: December 23 2004 at 17:57
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FINAL RESULTS
1. Focus 8 Todd/ Utopia 8 2. Tangerine Dream 7 3. Kansas 5 4. PFM 4 5. Jean-Luc Ponty ;2 6. Ashra 1&nbs p; & nbsp; &n bsp; Billy Cobham 1 Horslips &nbs p;&nbs p;1 thanks for participation!!! name that tune? When I talk to the trees O'great trees who have learned to speak slowly I know that they believe that they have an answer Then I walk in the city where I cannot hear it When I talk to the city I have already learned three answers before I call the question And slowly, I wish myself among trees but can not hear myself wishing When I talk to the people who are the trees that grow in the city they reply with a fond kindness, slowly but there is no answer for experience to be made by mistake Upon this key, time will slide, Beyond the lock, you lose your mind. And as our door becomes open, A rush of sound is found inside Creating Dreams that pass you by. You may live through your life a long long time.. But you will never know from where it came, Yet all you've seen is what you've wanted to, You`re walking forward as you look behind, Still watching those old memories fade and die... This door is heavy, and is deeply stained, With wasted tears, that try to fight in vain, You may be sitting, feeling quite secure, But listen carefully - and this key is yours - For we can lead you far beyond that door... there are dangers hidden, trust in that language and it is precisely this conception that which must not be changed the epitome of our language is patterns containment of thought and sound <shouting nonsense words> I die to fight!! I die to fight!! I die to fight!! <shouting nonsense words> Upon this key, time will slide, Beyond each lock, you lose your mind. And as our door becomes open, A rush of sound is found inside - Creating Dreams that pass you by.. Bent cold sidewalk, open the gate, I may be late but I can no longer wait. Stealing the crown that stood me up, I'm laying the table with dusty plates. Bent cold sidewalk, open the gate, I may be late but I can no longer wait. Playing the god to fix your gaze, I'm holding you firm on another day. Bent cold sidewalk, open the gate, I may be late but I can no longer wait. <shouting nonsense words> Crooked Conscienceless Path? |
Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: December 24 2004 at 02:36
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I was so troubled to choose among PFM and Focus. So I've voted for Focus. BTW, where are Eloy, Banco, Rush, etc???? ------------- I Prophesy Disaster... |
Posted By: maddog
Date Posted: December 24 2004 at 09:32
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AMON DUUL 2 AMON DUUL 2! AMON DUUL2? AMON DUUL2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AMON DUUL 2:A M O N D U U L 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- Vielleicht irrte sich der general-general-general |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 03:28
| EMPEROR! |