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Oh and yes, modding is another reason.  Even if it is just so I can make my character look better.
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Honestly, games just seem generally best on PC, and there is the modding aspect (don't care at all about multiplayer really so that's w/e) my laptop is just too old :(

Does seem you pretty much have to upgrade everything (or get a new comp) every so often to keep up, but yeah I'm so stuck with consoles I don't think about PCLOL

Speaking of crashing/issues  Skyrim still seems to be running fine, for PS3! Oh, and there was even another update (aka instability patch!) My copy must be graced by god or something


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Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

On Xbox 360:

-I've never had a red ring of death and I've had mine for five years.
-Mass Effect 1 always runs perfectly smoothly for me, and much smoother than if I tried playing it on my $2,000 laptop, even on medium settings.
-I've never had an overheating issue on any console I've ever owned, from Nintendo to 360, PS2, PSX, N64, even the goddamn Sega Saturn, man. I'm sure it happens just like some PC issues happen, but it's never happened to me.
-I really hate online multiplayer of any kind. I want to see their faces and yell at them from across the room. I want to time star power releases and headshots. I want to get a couple of my best friends together on a couch sipping pop and listening to music together while running through a new game until 3 AM without being hindered by clusters of cords, wires, screens, and such.
-I never gave a damn for modding anything. It gives me headache
-I can easily adapt to either a mouse or Gamepad, so I've no real preference.


1) Well, you may have gotten it right after they fixed the issue that caused the RROD, or you might just be lucky (and in that case, your luck will run out) Every first-gen 360 I know of has failed. Another fellow I knew used to brag that his made it before it died maybe 8 months ago.

2a) I am unsure whether you just have really terrible standards for "smooth" or whether you've never played Mass Effect. To quote IGN on the issue:

Originally posted by Eric Brudvig Eric Brudvig wrote:

All of this success doesn't come without a cost. The framerate in Mass Effect is as erratic as they come. This isn't something that happens occasionally. It happens incessantly. The game also has issues loading textures in when you enter a new environment. Flat, boring scenery gets filled in with details piece by piece for a few moments each time you load in.


2b) First, holy f**k, you spent two grand on a laptop? Second, holy f**k, it can't even play Mass Effect? My desktop cost me $600 two-and-a-half years ago including the monitor, and it runs ME1 like a champ.

3) The 64 had heat issues with the expansion pak. My first Dreamcast toasted itself as well. The SNES and NES didn't, though, and mine are still perfectly functional.

4) I actually don't like playing competitive games. Online is fun, but only co-op. That puts me at odds with the console crowd even more.

5) Uh... if you say so. The rest of us will just enjoy much-improved games. Heart

6) They both have their uses. Mouse and keyboard is good for accuracy of pointing and complexity. That makes it good for the likes of shooters, RPGs, and strategy games. Gamepad, however, offers superior movement control in most cases due to the analog sticks; this makes the gamepad better for third-person action games (e.g. Devil May Cry) and platformers. Problem is, it's easy to use a gamepad on a PC, but not so easy to use a mouse and keyboard on a console. Remember when Dreamcast did it? Yeah, that.
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Ah, I've had that framerate issue as well.  It especially happens when you jump onto a planet in your Mako.  The textures do indeed load piece by piece.  I thought it was my laptop being silly.

I also don't play many co-op games.  I do play online games sometimes but mostly ones where I'm not in a team or I create a closed server (like I did on Diablo 2).

I actually got used to playing games using my trackball until I broke it.  Now I'm using a mouse again and I am constantly having to pause games to adjust the mouse 'cause I run out of room!  This is quite annoying when gong up spiral stairs (like in Oblivion, Mass Effect and DA:O) and I have to spin my character to allow the mouse to be centred better.

I don't mod myself but do use many mods.  From the bland hair mods to complete game changers.

In fact, I accidentally stumbled on Spellhold Studios website again earlier (I've not been there in a while) and there's some very nice BGII mods on there I may try out.  New characters, new quests, new items... mmm.  And if you're so inclined, romance mods for vanilla game characters.

And I use BGTutu and it greatly improves the experience of playing BG1.

Oblivion is apparently a vastly improved game with Mods.

Mass Effect though has no mods.  ME2 though does allow some modding.
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Oblivion is almost tolerable when the people stop looking like ogres
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Oh and my laptop cost me £1500 about 5 years ago.  It's only due to age that I'm having a few issues with ME.  It's still on Medium settings though.

So if you spent $2000 on yours (not sure how long ago) then you should have no issue playing ME.  You don't miss out much on Medium anyhow as the graphics were not exactly mindblowing.
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Oblivion is almost tolerable when the people stop looking like ogres


LOL

Too true.  They all look like Michael Jackson out of the Thriller video.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alitare Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2011 at 20:29
I got my laptop for $2,000 about 5 years ago. But I got my Xbox 360 for (I can't remember) 300-400 dollars 5 years ago. The former always gives and has given me more trouble.
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That's the nature of a PC though.  It's not just used for game playing.  You're bound to run into issues.

As I said earlier, my mate got the Red Ring of Death on his 360 a few months ago.  It will happen to you.

I guess you best ask for a 360 Kinect for Christmas. Wink
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Lately, I've been playing Driver 3, for the PS2.
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Actually, I have had my 360 for years now and not one red ring of death, while everyone I know has gotten it, if not multiple times. 
Seriously, my game equip is blessed!
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Ah, I've had that framerate issue as well.  It especially happens when you jump onto a planet in your Mako.  The textures do indeed load piece by piece.  I thought it was my laptop being silly.


Nope, just the engine. Unreal 3 engine isn't good with big outdoors areas. ME2 solves this by making everything narrow corridors.

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I actually got used to playing games using my trackball until I broke it.  Now I'm using a mouse again and I am constantly having to pause games to adjust the mouse 'cause I run out of room!  This is quite annoying when gong up spiral stairs (like in Oblivion, Mass Effect and DA:O) and I have to spin my character to allow the mouse to be centred better.


Hah, I've been playing games like that for so long that picking up and replacing the mouse is something I do without thinking. My mouse is always centered.

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I don't mod myself but do use many mods.  From the bland hair mods to complete game changers....

Oblivion is apparently a vastly improved game with Mods.


Indeed. Mods are also absolutely necessary for Fallout 3. I got the tougher traders (so they'll stop dying on me), doubled damage to all characters (so fights don't take 3 hours and 3400 bullets), and turned off random respawning (so I don't have to kill 35 uber-scorpions just to get where I'm going). The game is VASTLY improved for it.

Also, let's not forget that only on PC can you use the almighty player.setav carryweight 99999 command!

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Mass Effect though has no mods.  ME2 though does allow some modding.


ME still has the console, which allows you to do things like access armors that aren't accessible in the game. Right now, my Vanguard is wearing heavy Hoplite armor. Stats are pretty close to medium Colossus: same damage resist, 15 less shields, 30 more biotic protection. But as for ME2, man, I'd die without the save editor. I always just hack myself a bundle of resources. Mining is painful, so I save myself the misery and edit in all the resources I need.
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The only wish I have is that my main character has long hair.  I hate not having an option to at least have medium length hair on males!  I realise they're supposed to be military and the buzz cut is the norm but at least let my Ruthless Earthborn character defy this!  He doesn't do rules.

The only Mods available for ME are texture ones and most are concerned with Garrus, who for some reason has a terrible face compared to all other Turians.


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Originally posted by Gamemako Gamemako wrote:

Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

^Which is exactly why I prefer console gaming. No unexpected crashes, overheating, mass frames per second slowdown, freezing, and none of those obnoxious hours of minor tweaking to play the game as high quality as possible without dealing with reductions in speed and smoothness, at least not in my case. 


Consoles crash all the time. Both the 360 and the PS3 have had overheating problems. The 360 enjoyed the RROD to boot. And holy sh*t, slowdown? ME1 runs at a solid 15 frames per second on the 360. I get 60. You live in fantasy land.

Anyway, back to ME1, I equipped the humans with armors aren't accessible in the game because I don't like how Colossus looks. Yay console commands!

Just because we don't have the same viewpoint doesn't mean we're idiots.You can be a little condescending sometimes.I prefer consoles,and have no problems with playing games on them.




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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Just because we don't have the same viewpoint doesn't mean we're idiots.I prefer consoles,and have no problems with playing games on them.

I have no problem with you and you really know your sh*t about gaming,but don't always like the tones of your posts(sneering condescension).


If you want to play games on console, that's fine. Just don't give nonsense reasons for it. I mean, come on: it was claimed that lack of slowdown and overheating were advantages when talking about a game notorious for slowdown on a system notorious for overheating. I didn't use Google to find that bit about the framerate issues; I just went to IGN (used to be my go-to for gaming news) and opened the Mass Effect review.

Originally posted by James James wrote:

The only wish I have is that my main character has long hair.  I hate not having an option to at least have medium length hair on males!  I realise they're supposed to be military and the buzz cut is the norm but at least let my Ruthless Earthborn character defy this!  He doesn't do rules.


Have you seen the character art for the default female Shepard in ME3? Long red hair. You may yet get the option for long hair! You'll just have to wait until you no longer care about it. LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alitare Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2011 at 11:57
My concern is not with other people having issues. I've never had framerate issues or crashes with ME1 on my Xbox 360 and I have it running right now. I could definitely show you some recording gameplay footage, efficiently outlining how these issues aren't present for me. I've never had a red ring, never had an unexpected crash, never had an overheating issue - do you think I'm lying? 

As I said, I'm certain it happens, but I've heard many more horror stories about PC gaming issues than I have console gaming issues. I've only ever experienced PC gaming issues, personally, and I've been heavily gaming in both fields most my life.
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I bought The Witcher yesterday because it was $2.50 on steam


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I have the Expanded version on DVD.  It forced my computer to almost blow up... it's playable though.  It's one of those odd games I want to enjoy more but it's got a few oddities too.

I never finished it though.


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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

I bought The Witcher yesterday because it was $2.50 on steam
Ha, I almost did too, but then I decided I didn't really want to play it.  And the Steam store is really irritating to browse.
I just fiddled with a replay, and what I was talking about is the walking animation for the minigun when it's not spinning. It was an illusion that I thought they were going faster than I was as a heavy.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JJLehto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2011 at 16:41
Yeah seriously, the whole system debate thing is silly anyway. They are all fine, and if you wanna get into the nitty gritty and fine details that you don't really notice unless you care to....

In fact I am considering buying a PS2 and Gamceube. So many great games on those, some of my favorites. And I really only played em once/never beat some!
Games today blow, only a few catch my interest...I needa go old school
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