Video & PC Game Discussion

Triceratopsoil wrote: that's why PC is better, people mod Besthda games like mad to get rid of the inherent sh*ttiness

  Bravo, good sir.

James wrote: I agree with Colin and Siam on this. Oh and Brian, just because it's like Oblivion doesn't mean I will hate it.  If indeed it is a lot better than Oblivion, then I may at least take a look at it. Some of the stuff I dislike about Oblivion has been improved on.  Of course, it's still a sandbox game and I've never really got on with them that well but that maybe due to other elements making my experience worse.

What were your gripes? I mean, it's hard to imagine that you'd dislike Oblivion and like Skyrim. Things you'd hate about Oblivion are

1) Aimlessness
2) Poor combat
3) Weak story
4) Dodgy balance

and guess what, none of those are fixed.

Horizons wrote: I got Skyrim today. I'm thinking of going Dark Elf because magic and stealthy combat sounds appealing this game. Maybe destruction spell in one hand and dagger/1 handed sword in the other? Is this a good route to go?

Ill-advised. You should be dual-casting destruction unless you're ward-draining your opponent's magic (something absolutely essential against vampires, who will inhale all of your HP faster than you can damage them if you don't have a ward up). You can't block if you don't have a shield or a free hand, and you can't use the weapon at the same time as the magic anyway -- your stream of fire will pause when you swing your weapon. Wards make it possible to ignore weapon skills, but wards are Restoration and Restoration has no damage abilities, so you have to use a second skill leveled anyway.

If you're going to abuse sneak, use one-hand and bows both. Bows are pretty overpowered again, and 6x damage on stealth strikes will put down most opponents in one shot if you've got some points in the overdraw skill (goes up to double damage, I believe, which would be the equivalent of 12 arrows). I started with a focus on DW, but archery is my highest level talent. Also, support the archer dude at the beginning so you can get free training by purchasing training from him and then taking the gold back from him. For close-up, stealth strikes with a dagger top out at 15x damage (and you get double your damage with the base talent there as well for a total of 30x damage), but in active combat, archery talents allow for paralysis, 50% stagger, and you can punch anyone who gets too close.

I didn't find a problem with combat all that much in Oblivion.

Yeah, the scaling is fixed in many ways but more broken in others.

I like that some enemies will absolutely destroy me if I'm not levelled enough - this actually makes me feel like I should level up and get better to go through that part of the game.

At the same time, it's annoying that giants are significantly harder than dragons at basically any level. Most dragons I've fought haven't even really been a challenge either, except for a couple of Ice-breathing Blood Dragons.

Joel, giants are a piece of cake once you're level 30 or so. 

James wrote: Oh wait, the spark sword was Morrowind, I think. My mind mixes the games together.

So does Morroblivion. http://morroblivion.com/

This is interesting: Entire Tamriel Landmass built into Skyrim.

SaltyJon wrote: Joel, giants are a piece of cake once you're level 30 or so.

I'm level 31 but I still find them significantly more threatening than the majority of dragons I've come across

Gamemako wrote: SaltyJon wrote: Joel, giants are a piece of cake once you're level 30 or so.  Giants are a piece of cake at level 1. You can sidestep their attacks forever and gradually toast them with your flamethrower-hands. Yeah, you can still kill everything by just jumping on logs and running circles around rocks.

But is it really fair to call a game easy if you choose to exploit it?

SaltyJon wrote: Yeah, I don't sidestep or run circles when fighting them, the closest I do to that is sneak around and shoot things which are apparently too dumb to find me after I've filled them with 10 or so arrows.

How good are you at finding things with 10 arrows in you?

I played through Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit some time ago. It was a fun play. It's more plot oriented than anything else. In fact, it's like a more interactive point-and-click adventure without the stiff cheese and detective intrigue. Lots of choices and minuscule facets. Not something I'd play through twice, but that first time was great.