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Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Very surprised that Killing Joke has not been mentioned in this thread!

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Skids, Big Country, (early) Simple Minds, Echo and The Bunnymen, Killing Joke, Cure, Japan, The Armoury Show and Magazine.

Howard Devoto obviously modelled his vocal style on Peter Hammill. Johnny Rotten also liked VdGG.
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I like all of the bands you have cited but NONE of them have the requisite PUNK element to qualify.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2011 at 05:44
Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:



Howard Devoto obviously modelled his vocal style on Peter Hammill. 
I don't think so. I doubt he could do anything about the way he sang.LOL
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Don't agree. Skids were as punk as you could get. All the others were derived from the post-punk scene. In fact Magazine was a off shoot of The Buzzcocks, Big Country from The Skids, The Armoury Show from the Skids AND Magazine. So the punk element was there throughout most of these bands.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2011 at 05:50
^ I agree with thelemming...not punk

Hang on..Skids as punk as you could get....thank you, my laugh of the day!LOL


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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:



Howard Devoto obviously modelled his vocal style on Peter Hammill. 
I don't think so. I doubt he could do anything about the way he sang.LOL


No? Then compare these two.........
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^ I agree with thelemming...not punk

Hang on..Skids as punk as you could get....thank you, my laugh of the day!LOL


Yes very, very funny aren't I?
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^ I know how they both sound. That is why I wrote my post with confidence.

Sounding similar to someone is not the same as modelling on someone. You offer no proof.
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I'm a direct descendant of Cro-Magnon man but I don't hunt down and club my dinner to death. Post punk (which I love) is exactly that, it was a more refined and articulate development that emerged from the clumsy agit-prop of punk.
Magazine had squat to do with the Buzzcocks apart from both contained Howard Devoto. The Skids best known song 'Into the Valley' was inspired by Jean Paul Sartre and Big Country were for me at best , a thinking man's Run Rig.
Punk was an undistilled nihilistic spirit foisted upon youth by economic privation. If you draw a graph based on the UK's prevailing economic well being, you can chart the birth and death of Punk.
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Points: 1781 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2011 at 06:07
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^ I know how they both sound. That is why I wrote my post with confidence.

Sounding similar to someone is not the same as modelling on someone. You offer no proof.


I give up. I know why I rarely post to the forum and this is why. I am sure this post will get dissed as well.
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Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^ I know how they both sound. That is why I wrote my post with confidence.

Sounding similar to someone is not the same as modelling on someone. You offer no proof.


I give up. I know why I rarely post to the forum and this is why. I am sure this post will get dissed as well.

Sorry. Ok. You are correct. Howerd Devoto modelled Himslf on Hammill.

Wasn't aware I was "dissing" you btw. Do you believe that of everyone you argue with?


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Hey that's a bit negative Barry. Good old fashioned debate is great fun. No-ones attacking you personally here, it's just a bit of cut and thrust banter. Nobody can prove they're right or wrong. Get with the spirit music lover.
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Points: 1781 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2011 at 06:10
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^ I know how they both sound. That is why I wrote my post with confidence.

Sounding similar to someone is not the same as modelling on someone. You offer no proof.


I give up. I know why I rarely post to the forum and this is why. I am sure this post will get dissed as well.

Sorry. Ok. You are correct. Howerd Devoto modelled Himslf on Hammill.


Thank you Snow Dog
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^You're welcome.Smile
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Hey that's a bit negative Barry. Good old fashioned debate is great fun. No-ones attacking you personally here, it's just a bit of cut and thrust banter. Nobody can prove they're right or wrong. Get with the spirit music lover.


No problem. I am just a new age sensitive guy I suppose whio just wants to be friends with all you PA people!
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Hey that was easy! That felt good! I should just concede arguments more often.Approve
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2011 at 06:14
Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Hey that's a bit negative Barry. Good old fashioned debate is great fun. No-ones attacking you personally here, it's just a bit of cut and thrust banter. Nobody can prove they're right or wrong. Get with the spirit music lover.


No problem. I am just a new age sensitive guy I suppose whio just wants to be friends with all you PA people!

We can be friends and still have a pretty strong argument.

Perhaps my laughing at you Skids comment was too far. If so I apologise.


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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Hey that's a bit negative Barry. Good old fashioned debate is great fun. No-ones attacking you personally here, it's just a bit of cut and thrust banter. Nobody can prove they're right or wrong. Get with the spirit music lover.


No problem. I am just a new age sensitive guy I suppose whio just wants to be friends with all you PA people!

We can be friends and still have a pretty strong argument.

Perhaps my laughing at you Skids comment was too far. If so I apologise.


That's OK Snow Dog....now as for The Skids...I really really think they were as punk as you could get!
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^Now stop it. you're killing me!Wink
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