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Catcher10 
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 Posted: November 16 2011 at 00:58 |
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^ Ok now I 'member......the interview he gave.....I think it was $50K....I would have sold it too and with google eyes at the money I doubt I would have considered a copy.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 16 2011 at 01:08 |
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^ right, in all the excitement-- and it may have been part of the deal with Time that no copies could be made by anyone but them (and the Secret Service of course)
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 16 2011 at 02:36 |
 Dean wrote:
James wrote:
CPicard wrote:
...One thing that still puzzles me is why are there so many American who swear that the Moon landing is a hoax. If the Russians managed to send a dog, then a man in space, why are there American people who denied this glory to their own country???
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Mayhap because the Russian claims were fake as well?
Or perhaps it's because they didn't go through the Van Allen Belt (I've not read whether they did or not).
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Quote wikipedia: "The Apollo astronauts traveled through the Van Allen radiation belts on the way to the moon; however, exposure was minimized by following a trajectory along the edge of the belts that avoided the strongest areas of radiation. The total radiation exposure to astronauts was estimated to be much less than the five (5) rem set by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission for people who work with radioactivity."
"The problem of protecting astronauts against the radiation found within the Van Allen belts was recognized before the advent of manned space flight... The simple solution to protection is to remain under the belts [below an altitude of approximately 556 km (? 300 nautical miles)] when in Earth orbit, and to traverse the belts rapidly on the way to outer space..." Quoth NASA
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Not really. There's so many other flaws in the whole story. I do know people have mentioned the Van Allen Belt though as one of the issues. Anyhow, I cannot physically see the Van Allen Belt and so it therefore may not actually exist! 
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 16 2011 at 02:42 |
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You all should watch the September Clues films.
I've seen them all. Very interesting. I am not saying I agree with it all but a lot of it I can certainly agree with. It's certainly a different take on the usual 9/11 theories (and very far fetched even for me!).
I'm still having issues with the whole Vicsim thing though. The Fox stuff though I can quite believe. There's so many flaws in the original footage it's difficult to comprehend at times.
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Dean
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Posted: November 16 2011 at 02:51 |
James wrote:
Not really. There's so many other flaws in the whole story. I do know people have mentioned the Van Allen Belt though as one of the issues.
Anyhow, I cannot physically see the Van Allen Belt and so it therefore may not actually exist!
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The people who told us about Van Hallen's belt were the same ones who sent a man to the Moon.
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What?
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 16 2011 at 03:25 |
James wrote:
You all should watch the September Clues films.
I've seen them all. Very interesting. I am not saying I agree with it all but a lot of it I can certainly agree with. It's certainly a different take on the usual 9/11 theories (and very far fetched even for me!) |
just watched much of it- I have to say buddy, to me it's one of the less convincing 9/11 bits. Seems more like a demonstration of how the same event can be recorded differently because of angle, camera, distance, light & atmosphere.
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Icarium
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Posted: November 16 2011 at 03:27 |
when one are talking about symbolisme I think it is interesting that the new wave band Tears for Fears on the album Seeds of Love have alot of Freemason symbols on the cover and some songs are about Freemason theories or beleevs, i don't know if Roland have connecetions though or he just is facinated by such things 
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: November 16 2011 at 03:38 |
Perhaps the mother of all conspiracy theory has yet to be tested: A globally famous person dies of natural causes with no suspicious circumstances and is (gulp) never seen again  .
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Icarium
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Posted: November 16 2011 at 03:58 |
who are you refearing to my imagination have gone vacation, is it Bruce Lee 
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: November 16 2011 at 04:12 |
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^Nah, he works in a post office in Brisbane
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 17 2011 at 00:01 |
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^ That's amazing, he also works in a post office in Brisbane,California .. well, at least a 70-year old Chinese man about Lee's size does. It could be him.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 17 2011 at 00:08 |
Atavachron wrote:
James wrote:
You all should watch the September Clues films.
I've seen them all. Very interesting. I am not saying I agree with it all but a lot of it I can certainly agree with. It's certainly a different take on the usual 9/11 theories (and very far fetched even for me!) |
just watched much of it- I have to say buddy, to me it's one of the less convincing 9/11 bits. Seems more like a demonstration of how the same event can be recorded differently because of angle, camera, distance, light & atmosphere.
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Except the 'plane is just not there in some shots.... that's nothing to do with angles. It's not there.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 17 2011 at 00:18 |
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Some of that footage reminds me of examining Zapruder, the planes hitting towers much like the bullets hitting Kennedy. This country has had enough surprise attacks for a lifetime. it's enough already.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 17 2011 at 00:21 |
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That's all genuine footage though, David.
I'm not saying I'm completely convinced by these videos but one thing I am sure about: it was an inside job
It's just determining how.
Edited by James - November 17 2011 at 00:22
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manofmystery
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Posted: November 17 2011 at 00:31 |
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oh, for christ's sake
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 Time always wins.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 17 2011 at 00:36 |
James wrote:
That's all genuine footage though, David.
I'm not saying I'm completely convinced by these videos but one thing I am sure about: it was an inside job
It's just determining how. |
Well I guess it's up to your generation to figure it out, I've got my hands full with Kennedy 
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manofmystery
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Posted: November 17 2011 at 00:54 |
Atavachron wrote:
James wrote:
That's all genuine footage though, David.
I'm not saying I'm completely convinced by these videos but one thing I am sure about: it was an inside job
It's just determining how. |
Well I guess it's up to your generation to figure it out, I've got my hands full with Kennedy
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Our generation (I was in high school on 9/11/11) did: South Park shot the 9/11 conspiracy bullsh*t down in flames. The logistics of it being an inside job simply don't make any sense.
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Time always wins.
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The T
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Posted: November 17 2011 at 01:01 |
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Nobody here has mentioned some really ugly conspiracy theories...
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 17 2011 at 01:03 |
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^ you mean like the guys in your sig
* rim shot *
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The T
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Posted: November 17 2011 at 01:11 |
 . Not really.
Bad conspiracies that say that things didn't happen. Those are popular among certain people...
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