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Philamelian
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Topic: Playing shows with no drummer? Posted: November 18 2011 at 10:38 |
Go with a drum software, like toontrack's stuff or bfd'... I am not sure if this suits your music or not but mixing programmed acoustic drums with lots of electronic drums and fills pushes the sound a bit to the electronic side. This gives a better feeling about the lack of drummer on the stage as there is lots of other rhytmical elements supporting your music.
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Posted: November 12 2011 at 13:34 |
If you aren't opposed to, say, playing a slowed-down cleaned-up version of your music, it can be cool to put a wooden box upside down with a mic under it and step on it
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 16:45 |
Hhhmm ok, I was just about to ask you if you had lots of odd timesigs and the works, or else I´d highly recommend using a sequencer. Makes the guitar and bass seem all the more prominent and otherworldly, and personally I think it is used far too seldomly these days, but it sounds pretty unrealistic seeing what you just wrote. The best sort of sampled drums out there - I find to be of a more percussive nature, but again it all boils down to what kind of feel you want to add to the music.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 16:30 |
Polo wrote:
4 posts in a row, eeek
How big is the town you're in? It's not really hard to find a nice drummer.
And Dean's advice is good advice. |
We've actually been looking for several months now and we've had no luck. The music scene here isn't really all that big. We have auditioned a few drummers but none of them fit the bill. Mostly because they couldn't keep up with the odd time signatures and tempo changes.
And yeah I wasn't sure how to put multiple quotes under one post, sorry about that haha
Edited by GalacticDeath - November 11 2011 at 17:09
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 15:58 |
4 posts in a row, eeek
How big is the town you're in? It's not really hard to find a nice drummer.
And Dean's advice is good advice.
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GalacticDeath
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 15:11 |
Dean wrote:
If playing to a backing tape (tape being the operative word - CDR is not recommended in a live situation - find an old DAT machine or use a disc-based DAW as they are far more reliable in that environment), ear pieces are a good idea as the playback through the stage monitors cannot be counted on, especially if you are used to playing with a loud live drummer (anyone know where the volume control is on a drum kit?).
But yeah, go for it - playing without a drummer is better than not playing at all.
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Thanks for the advice! So you think we should play the drum track directly from the DAW? I was thinking about just rendering it to wav or mp3 and playing it through itunes or another media player. Your way makes more sense though.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 15:04 |
Atoms wrote:
The only logical solution here is to copy yourself and make your copy the new drummer. |
haha yeah that could work lol
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 15:04 |
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Do either of you play drums?
I'm thinking backing tape here..... |
I play but not well enough to play the parts unfortunately. Also, we don't have proper mics to record drums.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 15:01 |
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There's nothing wrong with programmed drums as long as you don't try to make them sound like real drums. |
Hmm I think you're on to something there. If the drums sound too crazy and busy than it might be a little weird. I'll try to tone it down a notch.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 12:31 |
If playing to a backing tape (tape being the operative word - CDR is not recommended in a live situation - find an old DAT machine or use a disc-based DAW as they are far more reliable in that environment), ear pieces are a good idea as the playback through the stage monitors cannot be counted on, especially if you are used to playing with a loud live drummer (anyone know where the volume control is on a drum kit?).
But yeah, go for it - playing without a drummer is better than not playing at all.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 12:25 |
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Do you find it completely normal to hear drums being played when there are none to be seen? |
Every time I listen to my stereo.
But I see what you mean.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 12:20 |
Do you find it completely normal to hear drums being played when there are none to be seen?
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 12:19 |
Vompatti wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
There's nothing wrong with programmed drums sounding like real drums. | But it does result in an inevitable and unwanted estrangement effect. |
For you maybe.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 12:18 |
Snow Dog wrote:
There's nothing wrong with programmed drums sounding like real drums. |
But it does result in an inevitable and unwanted estrangement effect.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 12:14 |
The only logical solution here is to copy yourself and make your copy the new drummer.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 11:18 |
Do either of you play drums?
I'm thinking backing tape here.....
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 11:18 |
There's nothing wrong with programmed drums sounding like real drums.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 11:04 |
There's nothing wrong with programmed drums as long as you don't try to make them sound like real drums.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 10:51 |
irrelevant wrote:
Go "unplugged" so to speak. |
Yeah we thought about that too, but not sure how we would pull that off in bigger venues. Also, we don't have very good acoustic instruments. :(
So our best option I think would be programed drums.
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Posted: November 11 2011 at 10:06 |
Go "unplugged" so to speak.
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