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    Posted: October 16 2011 at 20:48
What do you think is the first album with any amout of modern progressive roack was?
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Points: 65305 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2011 at 21:03
any amount of modern prog then probably Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack -  but for true Proto, of late I tend toward Revolver and also give much credit to Brian Wilson for Smiley Smile particularly
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2011 at 21:17
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

any amount of modern prog then probably Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack -  but for true Proto, of late I tend toward Revolver and also give much credit to Brian Wilson for Smiley Smile particularly




Pretty much this, although Frank Zappa's debut was pretty close to this time as well.
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Points: 65305 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2011 at 21:40
 ^ very true, in fact I've got a boot from that period - Tis the Season to be Jelly from his bootleg set - that is good evidence for this, they even play King Kong; I believe it is a very important document

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vqvq-f-UtU
who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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^ touche.
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Points: 65305 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2011 at 22:29
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vqvq-f-UtU
sounds like the whimperings of a sociopathic madman
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The Crazy World of Arthur Brown's début must be worth a punt hereabouts?
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 ^ I'm ashamed and embarrassed to say I have never heard it

 * walks casually behind soda machine *
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* engages first gear in large truck facing soda machine
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 * sound of beeping as Lemming accidentally shifts into reverse and knocks over Jim Garten's reserve lardy cake *
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* said truck is deemed a complete write off while Garten's Gargantuan Gooey escapes with a tiny dent in his calorie intake

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Edited by ExittheLemming - October 17 2011 at 05:28
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Hey people wake up !   This is a Prog discussion forum and no one wants to drone on about early proto-prog, pre-prog, foreprog and any other prog you like ?    Since when ?   Is anybody out there ?
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"Freak Out!" was the first Prog, not "Proto Prog" album..
 THOSE >>>>            


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Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

"Freak Out!" was the first Prog, not "Proto Prog" album..

I don't agree. Freak Out! was a sort of satirization of the pop music at the time on the first two sides of the album. And sides three and four were more dominated by experimental (musique concrète) collages. Groundbreaking, influential and challenging, yes, (and the compositions were quite a bit more advanced than the general pop of the time). But full blown prog, no.

But don't take in what I say about sh*t I probably don't know much about.   


Edited by irrelevant - October 17 2011 at 08:31
New album!
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

 ^ I'm ashamed and embarrassed to say I have never heard it

 * walks casually behind soda machine *



It is unbelievably awesome and you should pick up a copy at your earliest convenience, but it comes from 1968, well after Freak Out and Revolver.
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Points: 10213 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 12:43
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

"Freak Out!" was the first Prog, not "Proto Prog" album..

I don't agree. Freak Out! was a sort of satirization of the pop music at the time on the first two sides of the album. And sides three and four were more dominated by experimental (musique concrète) collages. Groundbreaking, influential and challenging, yes, (and the compositions were quite a bit more advanced than the general pop of the time). But full blown prog, no.

But don't take in what I say about sh*t I probably don't know much about.   
I think that the Freak Out album (btw, probably the first double LP rock album) is one of the best Prog Rock album ever. It was the first great and really Prog album
Regarding these heydays of the great British Prog Rock Movement, it was started with Family's Doll House, then that freshness of the movement was over when KC were disbanded after Larks masterpiece.. IMHO.
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Points: 10841 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 15:57
Maybe Joe Meek's entire catalogue.
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Points: 466 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2011 at 16:24
The Clouds Scrapbook has to be a leading contender, especially as 1-2-3 was probably the first band to play truly progressive music (1966).
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Points: 2206 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2011 at 19:18
John Cage and Moondog.....pure prog progenetors.
I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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