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The First "Proto-Prog" album

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Topic: The First "Proto-Prog" album
Posted By: progistoomainstream
Subject: The First "Proto-Prog" album
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 20:48
What do you think is the first album with any amout of modern progressive roack was?

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 21:03
any amount of modern prog then probably Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack -  but for true Proto, of late I tend toward Revolver and also give much credit to Brian Wilson for Smiley Smile particularly




Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 21:17
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

any amount of modern prog then probably Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack -  but for true Proto, of late I tend toward Revolver and also give much credit to Brian Wilson for Smiley Smile particularly




Pretty much this, although Frank Zappa's debut was pretty close to this time as well.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 21:40
 ^ very true, in fact I've got a boot from that period - Tis the Season to be Jelly from his bootleg set - that is good evidence for this, they even play King Kong; I believe it is a very important document



Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 22:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vqvq-f-UtU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vqvq-f-UtU

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Posted By: progistoomainstream
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 22:18
^ touche.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 22:29
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vqvq-f-UtU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vqvq-f-UtU
sounds like the whimperings of a sociopathic madman



Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 03:57
The Crazy World of Arthur Brown's début must be worth a punt hereabouts?

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 04:12
 ^ I'm ashamed and embarrassed to say I have never heard it

 * walks casually behind soda machine *



Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 04:40
* engages first gear in large truck facing soda machine

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 05:08

 * sound of beeping as Lemming accidentally shifts into reverse and knocks over Jim Garten's reserve lardy cake *



Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 05:27
* said truck is deemed a complete write off while Garten's Gargantuan Gooey escapes with a tiny dent in his calorie intake

(Cough) Back on topic Embarrassed


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 05:33
 * sound of Lemming's new Admin office being locked-up, his things unfeelingly left in front of building, and a bill for the truck *


Hey people wake up !   This is a Prog discussion forum and no one wants to drone on about early proto-prog, pre-prog, foreprog and any other prog you like ?    Since when ?   Is anybody out there ?





Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 08:03
"Freak Out!" was the first Prog, not "Proto Prog" album..
 THOSE >>>>            


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 08:30
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

"Freak Out!" was the first Prog, not "Proto Prog" album..

I don't agree. Freak Out! was a sort of satirization of the pop music at the time on the first two sides of the album. And sides three and four were more dominated by experimental (musique concrète) collages. Groundbreaking, influential and challenging, yes, (and the compositions were quite a bit more advanced than the general pop of the time). But full blown prog, no.

But don't take in what I say about sh*t I probably don't know much about.   


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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 11:21
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

 ^ I'm ashamed and embarrassed to say I have never heard it

 * walks casually behind soda machine *



It is unbelievably awesome and you should pick up a copy at your earliest convenience, but it comes from 1968, well after Freak Out and Revolver.


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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 12:43
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

"Freak Out!" was the first Prog, not "Proto Prog" album..

I don't agree. Freak Out! was a sort of satirization of the pop music at the time on the first two sides of the album. And sides three and four were more dominated by experimental (musique concrète) collages. Groundbreaking, influential and challenging, yes, (and the compositions were quite a bit more advanced than the general pop of the time). But full blown prog, no.

But don't take in what I say about sh*t I probably don't know much about.   
I think that the Freak Out album (btw, probably the first double LP rock album) is one of the best Prog Rock album ever. It was the first great and really Prog album
Regarding these heydays of the great British Prog Rock Movement, it was started with Family's Doll House, then that freshness of the movement was over when KC were disbanded after Larks masterpiece.. IMHO.


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 15:57
Maybe Joe Meek's entire catalogue.


Posted By: giselle
Date Posted: October 19 2011 at 16:24
The Clouds Scrapbook has to be a leading contender, especially as 1-2-3 was probably the first band to play truly progressive music (1966).


Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 26 2011 at 19:18
John Cage and Moondog.....pure prog progenetors.

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Posted By: sideburndude...
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 22:04
Pet Sounds.


Posted By: KABSA
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 20:30
Canadian Band 'The Collectors' 1968 [on vinyl] and had been playing proto-prog awhile prior to it.

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