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    Posted: August 06 2011 at 23:54
Progressive-rock subgenres are not always clear-cut. Thus, it's inevitable that some bands on PA end up not being filed under the subgenre that most accurately reflects their musical style. I've seen many threads on the forum requesting changes in a band's classification, so I figured that I'd start a thread organizing all these requests in one place. If you feel that a band is incorrectly classified, post here and provide a sample and/or justification that supports your request.

This thread is NOT the place to discuss the quality of a band's music. It's just a way to make it easier for the collabs to properly classify the many bands that are included on the site.
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Points: 6088 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 23:58
Anyways, I'd like to suggest that Unifaun be moved from Symphonic Prog into Neo-Prog. The music focuses primarily on lush synths and vocals. This is Genesis-prog, but in a Marillion kind of way.
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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 00:00
Great idea! Let me start out with Kravetz who´s filed under Krautrock:




I really love that album and don´t pay too much attention to the genres in general, - but this is very far away from being Krautrock.


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I've always wondered what made Dun a zeuhl band
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Points: 6088 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 00:52
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

I've always wondered what made Dun a zeuhl band


I absolutely agree. They're RIO/Avant.
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 06:59
One I've come across recently is Chest Rockwell, who are listed as neo prog. If I'm honest, I don't see much prog at all, but definitely not Neo.
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IMHO Singularity (http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=687) should be filed under Symphonic instead of Crossover.  Their first album may be Crossover, somewhat, but to me their latest two are pure Symphonic.
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Points: 8581 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2011 at 16:48
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

I've always wondered what made Dun a zeuhl band


I absolutely agree. They're RIO/Avant.


That line is very blurred. I agree on Dun.  That one appears to be purely association and geography based.  Amygdala is another that really straddles the line. There are also a few RIO/Avant bands I would consider Zeuhl as well like Nebelnest and Guapo.

The progmetal subs get a little boggy too. Bands like Gordian Knot have a few distorted parts, but a distorted guitar does not always metal make.


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having Deerhoof classified as Xover is strange and causes issues when they are being reviewed. Avant or Math Rock even Eclectic would be closer to their classification outside this site.
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I'm sure I'm displaying my ignorance but I also struggle with some classifications. Obviously many prog albums display characteristics of more than one sub-genre, but why is a band like Harvester Indo-prog (yes Hemåt contains some raga) while Dzyan is Krautrock (much more Raga than Harvester and possibly more Indo-prog than krautrock?)?
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Points: 528 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2011 at 02:25
Rather than solicit a response on this guys, I've pretty much got my head around this on the way to work this morning. These pesky prog artists refuse to restrict their output to one clearly defined sub-genre of music. Curse them! Big smile
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Points: 18016 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2011 at 02:56
wut

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Points: 16715 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2011 at 03:09
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

wut

where did you get that avatar

It's one of the defaults...
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Points: 20252 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2011 at 06:07
David Bedford in crossover prog???? Confused 
 
 
 
 
Should definitely be Avant/RIO, no???Smile
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Points: 18016 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2011 at 12:01
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

wut

where did you get that avatar

It's one of the defaults...


At the time I posted that he had stolen my avatar
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Points: 2866 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2011 at 17:29

Elias Hulk are classified as a krautrock band, but they do not have a "German" way of doing rock. They should be under Heavy Prog, like the reviewer mentioned. (yes I have listened to the album)
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Points: 6088 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2011 at 19:04
Could collabs possibly review this page? And perhaps a pin would be good?
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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2011 at 07:50
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

David Bedford in crossover prog???? Confused 
 
 
 
 
Should definitely be Avant/RIO, no???Smile

You should bring that up in the ZART thread then.

I guess I'll report each of these to the respective teams for you guys.
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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2011 at 07:54
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Great idea! Let me start out with Kravetz who´s filed under Krautrock:




I really love that album and don´t pay too much attention to the genres in general, - but this is very far away from being Krautrock.

I have little expertise on Kraut, so what do you guys think these guys should be under? I heard either heavy or symph.
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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2011 at 08:00
Originally posted by Bosh66 Bosh66 wrote:

I'm sure I'm displaying my ignorance but I also struggle with some classifications. Obviously many prog albums display characteristics of more than one sub-genre, but why is a band like Harvester Indo-prog (yes Hemåt contains some raga) while Dzyan is Krautrock (much more Raga than Harvester and possibly more Indo-prog than krautrock?)?

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So you think Harvester should be moved to Kraut and Dzyan to Indo?
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