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Atavachron
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Posted: August 05 2011 at 18:00 |
EchidnasArf wrote:
Conan's old show on NBC pummels everything here. Only seen the new show once and it was just alright. The writing was meh, but Conan's still the king.
Leno is by far the worst. Craig Ferguson is a joke and only right behind Leno for the worst. Letterman is kind of losing his mind. He used to be great. Jimmy Fallon is awkward, but his show has decent writers and a great band (The Roots). Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are great, but alas, I have no cable. Jimmy Kimmel was way better with Adam Corolla on the Man Show. Surprised Howard Stern didn't make the list. (Not a fan by any means, just surprised.)
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Now hooold on, Ferguson right behind Leno for worst? Ferguson's
show may be a dimly-lit hole in the wall but that's what's cool about
it, and yes he is a joke in the best way-- Leno is just pure
unfunny embarrassing trash. And Howard Stern is hilarious, always
has been.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: August 05 2011 at 18:25 |
EchidnasArf wrote:
Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are great, but alas, I have no cable. |
They're both on Hulu and their Comedy Central websites (although Hulu is better). Personally, I can't really watch them anymore: they both have about 15 jokes they cycle through and apply to whatever current event every episode, and I understand the repetition when they have to make a show so quickly, but it still gets boring.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 05 2011 at 20:53 |
David Letterman Besides his greatness, there is also a personal connection there. Kinda the talk show host of my family But Conan is just the man, hilarious sh*t. Also got that surreal Letterman touch (but even more out there) and more edgy. Even before all the controversy I never found that bland and safe Leno any good.
Edited by JJLehto - August 05 2011 at 20:54
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 05 2011 at 20:56 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: August 05 2011 at 22:37 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Name the 15 or so. |
I think you know exactly what I'm talking about, but fine. For Jon: Play a clip of someone saying something, interrupt and respond as if they were being reasonable and you did not know he was about to say something crazy, resume clip, he says something crazy, act surprised even though you wrote the f**king show, make a stupid face and shout something. Play clips of a bunch of people saying the same thing, end with something incongruous from a movie that is slightly connected thematically or phonetically. Make fun of your own terrible accent (then why did you do it?) Make fun of your own terrible joke/say "I got nothing" (then why did you tell it?) Complain about Fox News. Mock the appearance of whoever you're talking about, preferably through a jarring transition from the previous subject. I'm tired of typing this now, and I haven't watched Colbert recently enough that I can pull out a list like that as easily, so I'm done. Except I will note that Stephen spends way too much time eating things on camera, and for some reason the audience always f**king loves it.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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EchidnasArf
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Posted: August 06 2011 at 00:45 |
JJLehto wrote:
David Letterman
Besides his greatness, there is also a personal connection there. Kinda the talk show host of my family
But Conan is just the man, hilarious sh*t. Also got that surreal Letterman touch (but even more out there) and more edgy.
Even before all the controversy I never found that bland and safe Leno any good.
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I agree with all of this besides picking Letterman as #1. I kind of grew up with Letterman, as my family always chose him over Leno. I still think his show has great atmosphere, production, and musical guests, but I find his monologue somewhat stale and disconnected. And his improv always feels like an inside joke that nobody is in on besides himself. Always really off the cuff and not relating to what is being talked about.
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irrelevant
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Posted: August 06 2011 at 01:40 |
Craig Ferguson got my vote, but it was hard to choose between him and Colbert.
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Earendil
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 22:47 |
Colbert is brilliant and my favorite from the list.
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GoldenGod2112
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Posted: September 22 2011 at 23:49 |
Conan!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love his show.
Andy is pretty funny too.
Letterman would be 2nd in my opinion.
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The future's uncertain and the end is always near. - Jim Morrison
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: September 23 2011 at 05:24 |
Graham Norton makes the unbearably crass and venal bearable and entertaining
Edited by ExittheLemming - September 23 2011 at 05:27
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 23 2011 at 07:08 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Name the 15 or so. |
I think you know exactly what I'm talking about, but fine. For Jon: Play a clip of someone saying something, interrupt and respond as if they were being reasonable and you did not know he was about to say something crazy, resume clip, he says something crazy, act surprised even though you wrote the f**king show, make a stupid face and shout something. Play clips of a bunch of people saying the same thing, end with something incongruous from a movie that is slightly connected thematically or phonetically. Make fun of your own terrible accent (then why did you do it?) Make fun of your own terrible joke/say "I got nothing" (then why did you tell it?) Complain about Fox News. Mock the appearance of whoever you're talking about, preferably through a jarring transition from the previous subject.
I'm tired of typing this now, and I haven't watched Colbert recently enough that I can pull out a list like that as easily, so I'm done. Except I will note that Stephen spends way too much time eating things on camera, and for some reason the audience always f**king loves it.
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OK so you're mixing up using the same format for a joke with actually telling the same joke. Delivery method and content are two different things. Johnny Carson doing a monolog every night was not telling the same joke. The Karnak bit was recurring but also not telling the same joke.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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