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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2011 at 17:31
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Pirates are in first. Good for them. Maybe McCutchen will be able to win the MVP award he deserves if this keeps up.


Yes the Buccos are tied for first. The test comes soon as they are to play the Reds and Cards back to back.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2011 at 12:52
So much for First place. It was nice while it lasted.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2011 at 14:17
1/2 game out and the Reds are in. I saw on Sportcenter last night that they won #49, it took them til September last year to do that. Just 32 more wins to break the streak.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2011 at 14:21
Glad to see the Pirates playing well, although I am hoping that the Reds pull that division out as they are my favorite National League team.  Not that I am a big fan anymore like I used to be as a kid.  Anyhow, Tigs and Indians are tied once again coming in today, with the Indians playing a double header and the Tigers having an off-day.  It looks as though the Indians are going to win the first game, so I guess I am hoping for a split; although I still have a feeling that by the end of the season the Twins are going to be the team that the Tigs are going to have to worry about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 09:30
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

How about the Phillies?

I like the Ms, but their offense is too putrid to do anything.
 
I think I can do that....I do like the Phillies, have not rooted for a NL team since leaving the LA area back in '83....big Dodger fan I was growing up, I also liked the Angels, but not so much now..back then they were cool team. Although I think Sciosa (sp) is pretty smart baseball guy.
 
I keep hearing from my boss (who is a big, big NYY fan) that they will get King Felix from the M's before season end.....I just don't see that happening. Because to your point above, the M's have no offense...but they have pretty good pitching right now. Why put yourself in a position to need both offense and pitching, if you give up Felix.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 09:40
I can absolutely guarantee you that the Yankees do not get Felix. They would have to offer half of their farm system to have the Ms not laugh them off the phone. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 09:43
Isn't it the league mandate that the Yankees get what the Yankees want and that other teams not named Boston must bend over backwards to make sure that this mandate is met?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 09:46
How much does it suck to be in the East these days? In the NL, you have the Phils and the Braves, arguably the two best teams in the NL, alongside 3 average teams; in the AL, you have the Yanks, Rays, and BoSox duking it out for the AL-E and wild card slots, with one average and one crappy team to beat up on.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 09:48
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Isn't it the league mandate that the Yankees get what the Yankees want and that other teams not named Boston must bend over backwards to make sure that this mandate is met?


A 25 year old pitcher in the top 10 in baseball locked into team control does not bend to any demands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 09:48
Originally posted by Gamemako Gamemako wrote:

How much does it suck to be in the East these days? In the NL, you have the Phils and the Braves, arguably the two best teams in the NL, alongside 3 average teams; in the AL, you have the Yanks, Rays, and BoSox duking it out for the AL-E and wild card slots, with one average and one crappy team to beat up on.


Meanwhile if you're in the AL Central or NL West your mediocrity will put you in first place.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 09:56

I'm just saying that Felix Hernandez in a NYY uniform will make the league tons more money than Felix Hernandez in an Ms uniform and thus it is in the league's best financial interest to make sure that that trade happens.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 09:58
Why isn't Verlander going to be traded to the Yanks too then? Why were the Yanks terrible for a decade then?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 09:59
It'll only be a matter of time until Verlander is a Yankee.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 10:03
Just like it was for Cliff Lee?

If it happens, it will be in free agency or in a time beneficial for Detroit, not when ratings dictate it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 10:08
I still don't know how Cliff Lee didn't sign with the Yankees.  That one left me completely bewildered. 
 
And you mean like with the Tigers trading Curtis Granderson to the Yankees even though he still had 3 years left on his contract.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 10:11
Scouts regarded Granderson as an inconsistent player who didn't have the ability to hit lefties. I don't remember much Detroit's situation when they made that deal, but I assume it wasn't when they were 1 GB in their division.

Not every free agent signs with the Yankees you know.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 10:12
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I'm just saying that Felix Hernandez in a NYY uniform will make the league tons more money than Felix Hernandez in an Ms uniform and thus it is in the league's best financial interest to make sure that that trade happens.

 
I see that point...but not really. How would that be good for all MLB? MLB would loose so much TV viewership out here in the west if the NYY get Felix or Verlander or Cliff Lee or all or some....I would have no interest in watching any NYY games on TV.
That might help a bit more in the east but in the grand scheme of things it would hurt viewership overall. I mean why would the San Diego, LA, San Fran markets watch more NYY games if that were to happen?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 10:14
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Scouts regarded Granderson as an inconsistent player who didn't have the ability to hit lefties. I don't remember much Detroit's situation when they made that deal, but I assume it wasn't when they were 1 GB in their division.

Not every free agent signs with the Yankees you know.
It was an offseason trade.  The Tigers got CF Austin Jackson (mostly a bust) and P Phil Coke (decent bullpen lefty, not so decent lefty starter) from the Yankees for Curtis Granderson and Max Scherzer (decent starter, maybe) and Daniel Schlereth (inconsistent bullpen lefty) from Arizona for Edwin Jackson (since traded to the White Sox). 
Edwin Jackson shutout the Tigers on Saturday with Scherzer as the losing pitcher (he only gave up 2 runs, with Valverde giving up the other 3 runs in the 9th).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 10:18
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Not every free agent signs with the Yankees you know.
Usually only if the Yankees already have a superstar at that position in question and therefore don't really need him.  Although, that hasn't stopped them in the past, aka A-Rod is now a 3rd baseman.  Otherwise, it is pretty much rule of thumb that the Yankees will be the highest bidder and thus get their man.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 10:26
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Not every free agent signs with the Yankees you know.
Usually only if the Yankees already have a superstar at that position in question and therefore don't really need him.  Although, that hasn't stopped them in the past, aka A-Rod is now a 3rd baseman.  Otherwise, it is pretty much rule of thumb that the Yankees will be the highest bidder and thus get their man.


Does it happen much more than any other randomly selected team? Yes.

Is it immutable? No.

This is a sidetracked discussion anyway. Felix is not going to the Yankees this year. There's a higher probability of the Orioles winning the World Series this year.
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