...and Then There Were Three vs Duke

Hercules wrote: Neither of them.   Genesis suffered a massive stroke after The Lamb (losing Gabriel, the band's brain) and a fatal cardiac haemorrhage after Wind and Wuthering (losing Hackett, the band's heart).   After that, all their music is pop - good pop in some cases, but not really prog and nowhere near the standard of the Trespass to Wind and Wuthering era.

Just another broad comment from just another Petey lover who doesn't come close to a worthy thought on the matter. I've said it before, and I'll probably have to say it again. After The Lamb,' Genesis didn't lose anything more than a great singer who had little more to give. With this loss came a whole new presentation of prog (ATOTT and 'Wuthering)  that was as proficient as the last batch of stew thunk up by Gabriel and Banks, both the shared brains and heart of the band (Hackett was never allowed to be more than its talented right-hand man). By the way, The Lamb' was a jumbled mix of this and that, stylishly packaged and released right in time for the holiday shopping season. It wasn't this great dividing event in the history of the band between "good" and "bad."

ATTWT is my least favourite Genesis album. Even worse than Calling All Stations

I like both albums. Duke has the better material but has too many weak songs to make it a complete work. And Then There Were Three has no weak tracks and has more even quality imo so I voted for that.

ATTWT on the strength of Down and Out, Burning Rope and The Lady Lies, a few other nice songs as well...

esky wrote: Hercules wrote: Neither of them.   Genesis suffered a massive stroke after The Lamb (losing Gabriel, the band's brain) and a fatal cardiac haemorrhage after Wind and Wuthering (losing Hackett, the band's heart).   After that, all their music is pop - good pop in some cases, but not really prog and nowhere near the standard of the Trespass to Wind and Wuthering era. Just another broad comment from just another Petey lover who doesn't come close to a worthy thought on the matter. I've said it before, and I'll probably have to say it again. After The Lamb,' Genesis didn't lose anything more than a great singer who had little more to give. With this loss came a whole new presentation of prog (ATOTT and 'Wuthering)  that was as proficient as the last batch of stew thunk up by Gabriel and Banks, both the shared brains and heart of the band (Hackett was never allowed to be more than its talented right-hand man). By the way, The Lamb' was a jumbled mix of this and that, stylishly packaged and released right in time for the holiday shopping season. It wasn't this great dividing event in the history of the band between "good" and "bad."

dear esky, boring pop is boring pop no matter how you are trying to explain all this. after gabriel and hackett musically everything went wrong, especially if you like prog. if you love low level pop with funny walks you probably feel very happy.

no votes this time.


Edited by akaBona - July 11 2011 at 09:56

I went with Three to keep things going neck and neck.  Duke gets a few points shaved off for having too many sappy relationship songs. 

I might also add that when Duke came out, I had become totally absorbed by earlier Genesis that when a friend played Misunderstanding for me (I think it was on the radio) I was certain that there was no way in hell that could have been a Genesis song.


Edited by Slartibartfast - July 11 2011 at 11:25

Chris S wrote: What if I deem Abacab or Shapes as Prog in some form?

Well thanks, Chris. That's very big of you.

lazland wrote: E-Dub wrote: Both are awesome, but went with Duke. E This.

^Touché

ATTWT for me, a great album!! I've always found Duke very abrasive and tinny sounding. Great songs but I don't like the production. ATTWT sounds warmer and has more depth to the production.