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You know, say what you want about Anoraknophobia,  but the songs just translate beautifully live. Besides "Man Of A Thousand Faces" on Friday and the last hour or so of Sunday, "Quartz" was the other highlight. And "If My Heart Were A Ball" from the '09 convention just scorched it.

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Can't speak for the live part but personally Anorak is to me one of their strongest i've heard. The music is great and has lots of variation. This Is The 21st Century is one of my favourites just for the great electronic triphop like sound they had. Also When I Meet God is a fantastic song that meanders along but has a great feel. In fact I could name any track on the album and say something I love about it.

And i'd really love to go to one of the Conventions one day. And I Shall.
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Listened to Afraid Of Sunlight a couple of times this week. Very good album, the music had a really nice flavour to it that I haven't heard often from Marillion and the title track stands out as a real masterpiece. Definitely glad to have this album to come back to
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May as well attempt to bring this thread back to life.

I listened to the whole of This Strange Engine the other day for the first time. Really great album, Estonia and This Strange Engine are two of the best things i've heard from them, and the rest of the album was very strong too. I still prefer Marillion.com to it though.
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As I've always said, This Strange Engine stands out as their most perfect achievement as a band. I've heard VERY few tracks which have such a dense and truly wonderful group chemistry in my 17 years. Truly a testament to the quality of this band.
After a very long break (probably a good 6 months or so) from listening to most Marillion stuff I've finally started to get back into it, although much less into the Fish era stuff as I previously was.
Also, hi to Eric, Lazland and Steve, I've been absent from this thread for too long
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Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

As I've always said, This Strange Engine stands out as their most perfect achievement as a band. I've heard VERY few tracks which have such a dense and truly wonderful group chemistry in my 17 years. Truly a testament to the quality of this band.
After a very long break (probably a good 6 months or so) from listening to most Marillion stuff I've finally started to get back into it, although much less into the Fish era stuff as I previously was.
Also, hi to Eric, Lazland and Steve, I've been absent from this thread for too long

And a very warm welcome back to you JoelHug

Personally, six days is about as much of a break that I can stand away from this bandLOL

Going back to the other point, This strange Engine is a hugely important album in the band's career, it being the first away from EMI. I still remember my little sister bringing the CD to me whilst playing cricket on a Saturday afternoon. I had despatched her with orders not to return from Wrexham without it, as I couldn't get to the record shop myself for the entire weekend.

It proved that they could function independently, and produce an album of massive beauty.

Can't say I agree that Marillion.Com is superior, but we all have different tastes.
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I am 41 years old and first discovered Marillion when I was 14, I loved the Fish Marillion and played the songs over and over, then heard the news he had left the band and basically I never continued with them beyond that point for years as I had moved on to harder rock music for a while, BUT... not so long ago I became heavily into Prog music again and I aquired Afraid of sunlight, and I was mesmerised by this album, (it is still my fave Marillion album), I went on to get This strange engine which I loved also, then I got Radiation, another great album, I am presently listening to Marbles double disk edition which so far has blown me away. I still love the old Fish sound but Hogarth for me is the ultimate frontman for Marillion now, he sings beautifully, writes beautifully, and the band's music has changed direction, it can be more subtle now but it can also rock like hell! I love this band now they are quickly becoming my number one band. I have a lot of their back catalogue to aquire still, but I don't want to get it al at once, I need some gems to look forward to!
 
I never listen to any reviews about Marillion albums, if I did I would never have bought any of the ones I own, I can't believe a review I read about Marbles where it said that the album would have benefitted from not including the whole of disc one! is this person mad? Ocean cloud, Invisible man, Genie, etc. I have recently bought albums that had strong reviews on this forum and they were terrible, now I listen only to my own ears.Cool
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Originally posted by Dr Vollin Dr Vollin wrote:

I am 41 years old and first discovered Marillion when I was 14, I loved the Fish Marillion and played the songs over and over, then heard the news he had left the band and basically I never continued with them beyond that point for years as I had moved on to harder rock music for a while, BUT... not so long ago I became heavily into Prog music again and I aquired Afraid of sunlight, and I was mesmerised by this album, (it is still my fave Marillion album), I went on to get This strange engine which I loved also, then I got Radiation, another great album, I am presently listening to Marbles double disk edition which so far has blown me away. I still love the old Fish sound but Hogarth for me is the ultimate frontman for Marillion now, he sings beautifully, writes beautifully, and the band's music has changed direction, it can be more subtle now but it can also rock like hell! I love this band now they are quickly becoming my number one band. I have a lot of their back catalogue to aquire still, but I don't want to get it al at once, I need some gems to look forward to!
 
I never listen to any reviews about Marillion albums, if I did I would never have bought any of the ones I own, I can't believe a review I read about Marbles where it said that the album would have benefitted from not including the whole of disc one! is this person mad? Ocean cloud, Invisible man, Genie, etc. I have recently bought albums that had strong reviews on this forum and they were terrible, now I listen only to my own ears.Cool

Welcome to the forum and The Round Table in particularBig smile Hope to see you around here often.

Nice story re H era Marillion, which mirrors, I think , a lot of other people's experiences. I saw them on the Season's End tour, and was hooked to Hogarth then, and, aside from Holidays in Eden, love them all to death. You really must get brave, BTW. It is on a par with Marbles at least, and is a masterpiece.

As regards site reviews, I think that most of us tend after a while to look and trust reviewers we know are trustworthy and, to an extent, share our tastes. Certainly, you should read the collaborators reviews in order to get a wholly trustworthy picture. Most, but not all, albums are, eventually, pretty fairly rated.
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Well i've had great fun discovering the H era the last few months. I'm not sure what to get next. 

I'm thinking either Radiation or Somewhere Else. Which would be most recommended at the Round Table?
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Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

Well i've had great fun discovering the H era the last few months. I'm not sure what to get next. 

I'm thinking either Radiation or Somewhere Else. Which would be most recommended at the Round Table?

I would go for Radiation first, Mark. It is an incredibly underrated album by a lot of the fans, but is superb. Cathedral Walls is right up there with their best, whilst I love the These Chains sequences. As an aside, this album was recorded in my old home town of Oswestry, and I was allowed a sneak preview at the studio!

Somewhere Else is, I know, very highly rated by Eric, and I am beginning to warm a lot more to it. There are some very powerful and emotional pieces of music on the album (H was going through his divorce), but the problem I think is that it suffered in comparison to its illustrious predecessor Marbles.

It's a long winded way of saying get both, but Radiation first.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

Well i've had great fun discovering the H era the last few months. I'm not sure what to get next. 

I'm thinking either Radiation or Somewhere Else. Which would be most recommended at the Round Table?

I would go for Radiation first, Mark. It is an incredibly underrated album by a lot of the fans, but is superb. Cathedral Walls is right up there with their best, whilst I love the These Chains sequences. As an aside, this album was recorded in my old home town of Oswestry, and I was allowed a sneak preview at the studio!

Somewhere Else is, I know, very highly rated by Eric, and I am beginning to warm a lot more to it. There are some very powerful and emotional pieces of music on the album (H was going through his divorce), but the problem I think is that it suffered in comparison to its illustrious predecessor Marbles.

It's a long winded way of saying get both, but Radiation first.

I've heard snippets of Radiation and am intrigued by it so i'll def get that. I do plan on getting both, then the rest 

And great story about Radiation there Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

Well i've had great fun discovering the H era the last few months. I'm not sure what to get next. 

I'm thinking either Radiation or Somewhere Else. Which would be most recommended at the Round Table?

I would go for Radiation first, Mark. It is an incredibly underrated album by a lot of the fans, but is superb. Cathedral Walls is right up there with their best, whilst I love the These Chains sequences. As an aside, this album was recorded in my old home town of Oswestry, and I was allowed a sneak preview at the studio!

Somewhere Else is, I know, very highly rated by Eric, and I am beginning to warm a lot more to it. There are some very powerful and emotional pieces of music on the album (H was going through his divorce), but the problem I think is that it suffered in comparison to its illustrious predecessor Marbles.

It's a long winded way of saying get both, but Radiation first.

I've heard snippets of Radiation and am intrigued by it so i'll def get that. I do plan on getting both, then the rest 

And great story about Radiation there Thumbs Up

CheersBig smile Thanks for bumping the thread, by the wayThumbs Up
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Well, THAT completes "Convention Season" for another 2 years. And WHAT a trio of weekends it turned out to be. We ALMOST crammed 7 hours of music and words into our muddled heads and you seemed to forgive us for whatever we forgot on the night!

Leamington was in no way an anticlimax after the amazing weekends in Holland and Montreal - in fact each weekend held sublime moments for us all.
The weekends seem to go from strength to strength on every level - the organization, the participation and the performance are, arguably, better year-on-year. 

Thanks, once again, to our staff and our crew for making it look like not much work at all! We know you were all cheerfully bluffing and we appreciate you leaving us to get on with the music.

We will now return to the studio with Mike H and get down to the serious business of creating some new songs for the rest of the year.
But we can't sign off without thanking each and every one of you who came to the weekends and set up some of the best vibrations we have ever known.

See you all again soon,
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Keep flying the Marillion flag boys !!   Can't wait for some new music.
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One thing I noticed about Anorak In The UK, in addition to the unusually high energy of the performance, is how absolutely spot-on the backing vocals are. Usually the backing vocals in live Marillion I've heard are at least slightly inconsistent (personally I don't mind, I actually find Pete's backing vocals incredibly charming).

Listening closely though, it almost sounds like Hoagie has a harmonizer effect on his microphone (kind of like what Adrian Belew used in KC for a time). Not that I particularly mind this either, if you have the tools you may as well use them.

So was there a harmonizer on his microphone, or was Pete and/or Mark Kelly just really spot on that night?
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Hello once again, I'm a big lurker on this board, always wanting to get more active but somehow never finding the time... I thought the Marillion thread would be a good place to try to start again, as they are definitely my no.1 prog band :)

Well, I am definitely what you would call a Fish era fan and a casual follower of the Hogarth era. (Sorry, I just don't get the "h" mystique at all). However, I'm suprised how everyone seems to think in terms of Fish and Hogarth eras; personally, I would put the line between the Afraid of Sunlight and This Strange Engine albums and declare there were "Neo-prog" and "Art Alternative" (or prog influenced alternative, or whatever) eras.

Seriously, I think there was a strong continuity in terms of music (if not lyrics) all the way from Script to Afraid, with a radical update to the sound when they went indie. This new sound has sometimes worked for me and sometimes not; I still don't like Somewhere Else and Happiness is the Road no matter how hard I've tried, my biggest gripe with them being the uneven dynamics and since I do like the live performances I think it's perhaps a production problem.


I might have more to write but I'll try to keep this post short so you all don't go hitting the PgDn key :)
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Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

One thing I noticed about Anorak In The UK, in addition to the unusually high energy of the performance, is how absolutely spot-on the backing vocals are. Usually the backing vocals in live Marillion I've heard are at least slightly inconsistent (personally I don't mind, I actually find Pete's backing vocals incredibly charming).

Listening closely though, it almost sounds like Hoagie has a harmonizer effect on his microphone (kind of like what Adrian Belew used in KC for a time). Not that I particularly mind this either, if you have the tools you may as well use them.

So was there a harmonizer on his microphone, or was Pete and/or Mark Kelly just really spot on that night?

I've always liked Pete's vocals, but I suspect that the point you are making was done via a production thing in the studio pre release.
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Originally posted by ACR ACR wrote:

Hello once again, I'm a big lurker on this board, always wanting to get more active but somehow never finding the time... I thought the Marillion thread would be a good place to try to start again, as they are definitely my no.1 prog band :)

Well, I am definitely what you would call a Fish era fan and a casual follower of the Hogarth era. (Sorry, I just don't get the "h" mystique at all). However, I'm suprised how everyone seems to think in terms of Fish and Hogarth eras; personally, I would put the line between the Afraid of Sunlight and This Strange Engine albums and declare there were "Neo-prog" and "Art Alternative" (or prog influenced alternative, or whatever) eras.

Seriously, I think there was a strong continuity in terms of music (if not lyrics) all the way from Script to Afraid, with a radical update to the sound when they went indie. This new sound has sometimes worked for me and sometimes not; I still don't like Somewhere Else and Happiness is the Road no matter how hard I've tried, my biggest gripe with them being the uneven dynamics and since I do like the live performances I think it's perhaps a production problem.


I might have more to write but I'll try to keep this post short so you all don't go hitting the PgDn key :)

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Without a doubt, the point you make about the band's sound after This Strange Engine is very pertinent. I've said many a time that the band should no longer be classified as neo-prog on this site. their sound has moved way beyond that, and I think they properly belong in Crossover.

As for the albums you mention, Something Else is IMHO very much an acquired taste. However, HITR is a mighty fine album - keep at both of them, and it will pay off.
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As for Happiness is the Road I think that would have made an excellent 1CD album, particularly the second CD starts out very, very strong with excellent tracks such as Marzipan and Asylum Satellite. This way it's a very good 2 CD album, but quite a long way from Marbles which is the real Hogarth era masterpiece I think.

BTW the 'Net is a very strange place, just today I found out that Fish era Marillion has covered Mike Oldfield's "Shadow on the Wall"! Who would have thought...?  (many years later Fish almost got a lead vocal on a Mike Oldfield song, but that's another story...)


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BTW the 'Net is a very strange place, just today I found out that Fish era Marillion has covered Mike Oldfield's "Shadow on the Wall"! Who would have thought...?  (many years later Fish almost got a lead vocal on a Mike Oldfield song, but that's another story...)

I think that's a live bootleg you're referring to?
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Even though I remember them from the 80's, I've been heavy into Marillion for about 5 years now. In that short amount of time, I've been able to acquire pretty much their entire catalog in discs and DVD's (I still need the newly remastered live discs from the Fish era). And, with my membership to the Front Row Club and the WebUK, I have an assortment of live discs from Hogarth's very first live performance in Paris, to several performances from the Happiness Is The Road tour. All of this is topped off by my attending the North Amercian convention in Montreal in April, and will most assuredly go down as (one of) the greatest live music experiences of my life.

I have to really watch myself with Marillion. If I find myself listening to them too much, I must shelve them for a period; however, every time I re-visit them and hear the brilliant music that they continue to produce, it just reaffirms what I love and admire about this band.

So, being that we're seeing a lot of "appreciation threads", I thought I'd start one of my favorite and learn what makes them special for you. Favorite discs, songs and experiences can be expressed freely.

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