Bin Laden is dead.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: BaldFriede wrote: What really is strange that the USA claim to have identified Bin Laden by comparing his DNA to the DNA of relatives. Do you have any idea how long a DNA analysis takes? Not to mention a sample of Bin Laden had to be transported to a facility where such an analysis is possible. Yet a few hours after his alleged death the USA claim to have identified him by his DNA! This is absolutely impossible! The report was that they were awaiting DNA testing. It was not completed when his body was buried.

That's not what I heard; we probably have different sources.

thellama73 wrote: Is it opposite day or something? Henry is the most lucid voice running through this entire thread.

That would include you too good Logan, after this remark...

Edited by The T - May 03 2011 at 12:16

I am pretty sure the f**ker is dead. A reliable source described to me how they got him. Ground intel discovered his location and called in an airstrike that invloved A-10s supporting 2 Spectre gunships. Once the A-10s were finished with the initial onslaught the Spectre gunships mopped up by shooting anything that moved on the ground.

And now I'm hearing that he didn't have a gun, but they shot him because he was "resisting"? That doesn't sound good. 
 
Please don't bring idiotic 9/11 conspiracy theories into this. If you want to talk about that, make another thread so I don't have to read it and I won't feel compelled to bang my head against the walls of your fantasy land. 

Vibrationbaby wrote: I am pretty sure the f**ker is dead. A reliable source described to me how they got him. Ground intel discovered his location and called in an airstrike that invloved A-10s supporting 2 Spectre gunships. Once the A-10s were finished with the initial onslaught the Spectre gunships mopped up by shooting anything that moved on the ground.

You said that in the other thread, and it's still not true. 

thellama73 wrote: Is it opposite day or something? Henry is the most lucid voice running through this entire thread.

The funny thing is that all of my posts in this thread were done on almost no sleep. ;-)

Henry Plainview wrote: And now I'm hearing that he didn't have a gun, but they shot him because he was "resisting"? That doesn't sound good.

 

He didn't use a woman to shield himself, he wasn't really firing back or even holding a gun. He was executed, plain and simple. Good or bad, it was not an hyperbole after all.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Henry the order was to shoot him. He was getting shot if he waved a white flag.

Yeah, but when you originally posted that I thought it was more "Don't risk your life trying to capture him in a firefight", not shooting an unarmed man in the head. 

The T wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: Please don't bring idiotic 9/11 conspiracy theories into this. If you want to talk about that, make another thread so I don't have to read it and I won't feel compelled to bang my head against the walls of your fantasy land. Can a conspiracy theory ever be true? What is that says that all conspiracy theories are lunacy or bullsh*t? I'm just asking because I think we haven't discussed this on PA (or maybe we have, we have discussed everything). Really, why? I'm notbsaying I believe in bin Laden still being alive or in him having died in 2000, but I still don't see why a conspiracy theory is always so lunatic. Is it just the need of most of society to portray as "abnormal" anything that is outside of the general norm? Adaptation to society's canons is still the measurement of normalcy? Or it theren something more?

It has nothing to do with the norms of society, many crazy ideas are fairly well accepted among the populace (this website wouldn't have to be so strident if that were not the case). I have never seen a conspiracy theory that isn't lunacy (and I've spent a fair amount of time on this, so you probably aren't going to be able to present something new to me). I am aware that there have been conspiracies in the past, but they all either were on a much, much smaller scale than what people normally present and/or failed. Because yeah, MKULTRA was some f**king crazy sh*t, and maybe the government is still doing horribly unethical things like that today, I don't know. But that's a far cry from actually being able to use mind control or engineering 9/11. If something were not insane, it wouldn't be a conspiracy theory. Is this an overly black and white view of reality? Probably. Do I care? No, life is too short for me to continue to argue with crazy people about the f**king melting point of steel. 


Edited by Henry Plainview - May 03 2011 at 21:11

Vibrationbaby wrote: I am pretty sure the f**ker is dead. A reliable source described to me how they got him. Ground intel discovered his location and called in an airstrike that invloved A-10s supporting 2 Spectre gunships. Once the A-10s were finished with the initial onslaught the Spectre gunships mopped up by shooting anything that moved on the ground.

The T wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: Please don't bring idiotic 9/11 conspiracy theories into this. If you want to talk about that, make another thread so I don't have to read it and I won't feel compelled to bang my head against the walls of your fantasy land. Can a conspiracy theory ever be true? What is that says that all conspiracy theories are lunacy or bullsh*t? I'm just asking because I think we haven't discussed this on PA (or maybe we have, we have discussed everything). Really, why? I'm notbsaying I believe in bin Laden still being alive or in him having died in 2000, but I still don't see why a conspiracy theory is always so lunatic. Is it just the need of most of society to portray as "abnormal" anything that is outside of the general norm? Adaptation to society's canons is still the measurement of normalcy? Or it theren something more?

Theorhetically, a conspiracy theory could be true, but in reality they are simply always too improbable. People aren't really that good at keeping secrets in general and most of the popular theories would require at least hundreds of people to know about them. The belief that there are massive conspiracies everywhere is just not tenable by a rational person.

The Dark Elf wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: Maybe with a trial he would get to reiterate the reasons for the 9/11 attacks and people would actually listen and demand a change in our foreign policy?  Sorry I believe in trial even for mad dogs, whatever they are.   I don't care what his reasons were. He represented no government, in fact he was kicked out of every decent country he'd ever been in. He did not represent Muslims worldwide. He and his self-funded organization, al-Qaeda claimed responsbility for the following:   1 Early 1990s 1.1 February 1993 World Trade Center 1.2 March 1993 Bombay bombings 1.3 1994 Bojinka, Philippine Airlines Flight 434 2 1998 U.S.-embassy bombings 3 2000 USS Cole bombing 4 September 11, 2001, attacks 5 October 2002 Bali bombings 6 November 2003 Istanbul attacks 7 February 2004 SuperFerry 14 bombing 8 March 11, 2004 Madrid train bombings 9 May 2004 Khobar massacre 10 July 7, 2005 London transport bombings 11 July 23, 2005 Sharm el-Sheikh attacks 12 November 9, 2005 Amman hotel bombing 13 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings 14 April 2007 Algiers bombings 15 February 2008 Kandahar bombing 16 June 2, 2008 Danish-embassy bombing 17 Dec 4, 2008 Khost Intelligence Base Bombing 18 June 2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting 19 December 2009 Northwest Airlines Flight 253 20 Dec 30, 2009 Khost Suicide Bomber 21 January 2010 Lakki Marwat suicide bombing 22 May 2010 attacks on Ahmadi mosques in Lahore 23 September 2010 Quetta bombing 24 October 2010 cargo plane bomb plot 25 Iraq attacks 25.1 August 2003 Imam Ali Mosque bombing 25.2 February 2004 Irbil bombings 25.3 March 2004 Iraq Ashura bombings 25.4 April 2004 Basra bombings 25.5 July 2005 Musayyib bombing 25.6 September 2005 Baghdad bombings 25.7 November 2005 Khanaqin bombings 25.8 April 2006 Buratha Mosque bombing 25.9 November 2006 Sadr City, Iraq bombings 25.10 February 2007 Baghdad market bombing 25.11 March 2007 Tal Afar bombings 25.12 April 2007 Baghdad Iraq bombings 25.13 August 14, 2007 Yazidi community Iraq bombing 25.14 August 2009 Baghdad bombings 25.15 October 2009 Baghdad bombings 25.16 April 2010 Baghdad bombings 25.17 May 2010 Iraq attacks 25.18 November 2010 25.19 January 2011 Iraq suicide attacks I am as uninterested in his taking a bullet to the head as he was in slaughtering thousands upon thousands of innocent men. women and children -- Muslims, Christians, Jews or those holding no religious or political beliefs whatsoever. Even a few anarchists, I am sure.