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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 03:24
Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

They are suggesting Bin Laden used one of his wives as a human shield when the US invaded his hideout. This is as barbaric as he would get. BL - A real waste of oxygen.


They have changed that part of the story. Personally I never believed in it.

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_664114.html


Also the original story that Osama "had a gun" and "fought back" has also been changed. Last I heard it was said he did not fire any shots.

Not that Bin Laden still wasn't a waste of oxygen of course!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 03:58
What really is strange that the USA claim to have identified Bin Laden by comparing his DNA to the DNA of relatives. Do you have any idea how long a DNA analysis takes? Not to mention a sample of Bin Laden had to be transported to a facility where such an analysis is possible. Yet a few hours after his alleged death the USA claim to have identified him by his DNA! This is absolutely impossible!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 04:04
I believe they used physical evidence and confirmation of family members, while still waiting for the official DNA results.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 04:40
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

I believe they used physical evidence and confirmation of family members, while still waiting for the official DNA results.


That's not what they said; the statement was he was identified by comparing his DNA to the DNA of family members.. And anyway, how would it be possible to get confirmation from family members? His body was thrown into the sea.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 04:43
This is a great time for Obama. This significantly trumps (excuse the pun) and drowns out all that bullsh*t about his birth certificate, and the media saturation of this story, takes the spot light off Libya for a week or so, Syria and the little talked about fact that Britian is about to send troops to Tunisia to 'help manage the refugee situation from Libya'

The next couple of years could be pretty choppy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 04:46
I'm guessing you are a 9/11 inside jobber/don't believe this is really him?
I respect your opinion but I see it going down a bad road..so I'm respectfully bowing out before I make myself look worse than I already do LOL

This was planned for months though, not like "hey we found him whadya know" I mean the actual operation took 40 minutes! They had everything planned and lined up perfectly. Which would mean things such as verification were also ready to be prepared swiftly. IMHO of course.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 04:47
This joke I found on FB


To prove it was Bin Laden that was killed, DNA swabs were taken from the mouth, anus and penis of the corpse. The results are just in and are showing alarmingly high levels of goat
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 04:47
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

This joke I found on FB


To prove it was Bin Laden that was killed, DNA swabs were taken from the mouth, anus and penis of the corpse. The results are just in and are showing alarmingly high levels of goat


HEY OH! LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 04:53
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

I'm guessing you are a 9/11 inside jobber/don't believe this is really him?
I respect your opinion but I see it going down a bad road..so I'm respectfully bowing out before I make myself look worse than I already do LOL

This was planned for months though, not like "hey we found him whadya know" I mean the actual operation took 40 minutes! They had everything planned and lined up perfectly. Which would mean things such as verification were also ready to be prepared swiftly. IMHO of course.

No, I am not. But I am a thinker, not a believer. We definitely have not been told the whole truth about 9/11; there are too many loose ends.
As for the identifying: You can't just carry the equipment for a DNA-analysis around, and even if you could it would take a few days. And honestly: Do you think they would take some relatives of Bin Laden along for such an operation? I sincerely doubt that.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 05:01
Wow, me a "believer"?
I will let that slide since you don't deal with me on a regular basis LOL
But yeah, ask any regular of the SR how much of a pain in the ass I am, especially with never going along with anything!

Of course relatives were not taken along.
And if you'd like to start a thread for this, please do Smile but the 9/11 issue and everything involved with it is a big, complex web and frankly I care not to go into here and now. Long story short, of course I don't believe everything as is 100% that is just foolish on many levels. However, I also don't think it's as devilish as many think and that while no one wants to say this, governments keep secrets either because they think us lowly citizens can't handle it or they deem it dangerous to the nation. I mean every government. As sad as that is they hold such opinions of us, it's reality and does not equate to a sinister plot.

All my opinion, how the hell can we know either way?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 05:03
A believer can be a thinker too. That much is obvious. But maybe not in Germany.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 05:04
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

A believer can be a thinker too. That much is obvious.


Or if you want to take my long winded rambling post and condense it....what he said LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 05:31
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Wow, me a "believer"?
I will let that slide since you don't deal with me on a regular basis LOL
But yeah, ask any regular of the SR how much of a pain in the ass I am, especially with never going along with anything!

Of course relatives were not taken along.
And if you'd like to start a thread for this, please do Smile but the 9/11 issue and everything involved with it is a big, complex web and frankly I care not to go into here and now. Long story short, of course I don't believe everything as is 100% that is just foolish on many levels. However, I also don't think it's as devilish as many think and that while no one wants to say this, governments keep secrets either because they think us lowly citizens can't handle it or they deem it dangerous to the nation. I mean every government. As sad as that is they hold such opinions of us, it's reality and does not equate to a sinister plot.

All my opinion, how the hell can we know either way?
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I don't claim to know anything. But I am quite certain of one thing: There is as much truth in the official report on 9/11 as there is in the Warren report.
I have no idea about how devilish a plot 9/11 may have been; all I know is that what is presented to us as "the facts" does not add up. And I am definitely not alone in this matter.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 05:41
Yes, can't say I disagree with much of that.
Also, while I applaud you for being a thinker please don't make presumptions about people.

Forgive me if I may be over thinking this...but that believer remark felt like quite an assumption based on one post and given the topic at hand...sure hope you didn't assume me another dumb American. That would've been quite closed minded now wouldn't it?

I honestly can think of few people I've known or even encountered that believe it 100% Like I said that would be incredibly foolish.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 06:31
Well, I'm just so glad that President Bush got him dead or alive.  That was Bush that finally got him right? Tongue



Edited by Slartibartfast - May 03 2011 at 07:08
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 08:31
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

This joke I found on FB


To prove it was Bin Laden that was killed, DNA swabs were taken from the mouth, anus and penis of the corpse. The results are just in and are showing alarmingly high levels of goat
 
 
So, his body was put through a TSA screening?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 08:55
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

What really is strange that the USA claim to have identified Bin Laden by comparing his DNA to the DNA of relatives. Do you have any idea how long a DNA analysis takes? Not to mention a sample of Bin Laden had to be transported to a facility where such an analysis is possible. Yet a few hours after his alleged death the USA claim to have identified him by his DNA! This is absolutely impossible!

The report was that they were awaiting DNA testing. It was not completed when his body was buried. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 08:58
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 09:00
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

What really is strange that the USA claim to have identified Bin Laden by comparing his DNA to the DNA of relatives. Do you have any idea how long a DNA analysis takes? Not to mention a sample of Bin Laden had to be transported to a facility where such an analysis is possible. Yet a few hours after his alleged death the USA claim to have identified him by his DNA! This is absolutely impossible!

The report was that they were awaiting DNA testing. It was not completed when his body was buried. 

Plus, it's not like no one knows what he looks like, and one of his wives who was present confirmed it was him.

Please, no one bother saying it could have been a body double or whatever, the conspiracy theorist always moves the goalposts no matter what information is provided.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 09:08
I actually just read this article Pat.


That's not to say I'm pushing a conspiracy theory though.
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