Bin Laden is dead.

Atavachron wrote:  ^ darker than religious extremism? I doubt it--  and isn't UBL's figurehead symbolism what made him an important target?

Retribution.

There is something darker than religious extremism, and that's religious extremism with a taste for revenge.

JJLehto wrote: Sad thing is I have already seen 2 FB statuses about "Ill believe it when I see the death certificate" and one did call for the long form. Yeah, the impressive nature of that facility and it's location in Pakistan would make that claim credible Jody. Oh and also common sense And yes, clearly no border was going to stop us from getting him. It's easy to look at it from the US's point of view, obviously, but you don't have any qualms with a secret force walking into countries to kill someone? Though I already know you're answer is going to be "no"

They don't want to kill people more. But it may galvanize those on the fringes, that's all.

Any Colour You Like wrote: They don't want to kill people more. But it may galvanize those on the fringes, that's all.

 .."those on the fringes" ?   Isn't the whole terrorism thing based on the fringes?  That ship has sailed, my friend, we live in a world of fringes.  That's the point.

Atavachron wrote: Any Colour You Like wrote: They don't want to kill people more. But it may galvanize those on the fringes, that's all.  .."those on the fringes" ?   Isn't the whole terrorism thing based on the fringes?  That ship has sailed, my friend, we live in a world of fringes.  That's the point.

Mainstream terrorists denounce attack on orphanage: "We only kill adults!"

Atavachron wrote: Any Colour You Like wrote: They don't want to kill people more. But it may galvanize those on the fringes, that's all.  .."those on the fringes" ?   Isn't the whole terrorism thing based on the fringes?  That ship has sailed, my friend, we live in a world of fringes.  That's the point.

Henry Plainview wrote: Blacksword wrote: Atavachron wrote:  ^ darker than religious extremism? I doubt it--  and isn't UBL's figurehead symbolism what made him an important target?   Retribution. There is something darker than religious extremism, and that's religious extremism with a taste for revenge. And, once again: I do not see how al-Qaeda can want to kill people any more than they currently do.    TheProgtologist wrote: No   I would have a problem with a secret force coming into THIS country to kill someone,but not a US force going into another country to kill someone.   I know that is totally hypocritical but I am just being honest. Well at least you aren't pretending your opinion has a logical basis...

TheProgtologist wrote: JJLehto wrote: TheProgtologist wrote: JJLehto wrote: Sad thing is I have already seen 2 FB statuses about "Ill believe it when I see the death certificate" and one did call for the long form. Yeah, the impressive nature of that facility and it's location in Pakistan would make that claim credible Jody. Oh and also common sense And yes, clearly no border was going to stop us from getting him. It's easy to look at it from the US's point of view, obviously, but you don't have any qualms with a secret force walking into countries to kill someone? Though I already know you're answer is going to be "no"   No   I would have a problem with a secret force coming into THIS country to kill someone,but not a US force going into another country to kill someone.   I know that is totally hypocritical but I am just being honest. OK, but what if some secret force came into the United St.....wait a second! Damn it Jody Hell, at least you are being honest and not trying to hide.   And to be honest my friend,this isn't the first time we snuck into another country with a small,elite force and took care of business.Not the first and unfortunately not the last.

I never knew that but I always "knew" that. Well....
Do you mean times like the Cold War days when we toppled governments at will? Or actually going in Sam Fischer style to take someone out?


Oh, and a professor I had(long time CIA career) once slipped about us going to nab Hugo Chavez...and quickly tried it to play it off
Of course we failed on that one.




Edited by JJLehto - May 02 2011 at 03:51

JJLehto wrote: AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: Lets hope Bin Laden doesnt become a martyr because as he went down in a blaze of glory it appears to be scripted to perfection.  He will be. If he was captured alive though and rotted in jail the cause would probably still be empowered. Maybe maybe not as much... How will they dispose of the body? Supposedly burying it at sea. And will we ever see a 9/11 ever again? No way to know, but I 100% believe something will happen....   Dead or alive, Bin Laden's AQ operation will continue but at least that maniac is dead...   A symbolic body blow to the Al Queada in any case. Indeed, it is all symbolic and wont hurt AQ at all, not to mention those that operate outside AQ are totally untouched.

AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: JJLehto wrote: AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: Lets hope Bin Laden doesnt become a martyr because as he went down in a blaze of glory it appears to be scripted to perfection.  He will be. If he was captured alive though and rotted in jail the cause would probably still be empowered. Maybe maybe not as much... How will they dispose of the body? Supposedly burying it at sea. And will we ever see a 9/11 ever again? No way to know, but I 100% believe something will happen....   Dead or alive, Bin Laden's AQ operation will continue but at least that maniac is dead...   A symbolic body blow to the Al Queada in any case. Indeed, it is all symbolic and wont hurt AQ at all, not to mention those that operate outside AQ are totally untouched.   That all makes sense... thanks!   My thoughts are: Bin Laden was the face of evil so who will replace him? He bombed Tanzania locales all those years. Then the massive 9/11 operation of course made him a household name.   His death is a symbolic blow but the catalyst for a new wave of terrorist attacks unfortunately. The AQ may want to show the world they are still a force to be reckoned with. AQ is now a franchise with offshoots worldwide under different pseudonyms especially AQ in the Arabian Peninsula.   He can be replaced by the Egyptian born surgeon that worked for him. This is the scenario on the news anyway.