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Poll Question: The one you prefer or would trust the most?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2011 at 23:21
Anyway, I prefer Jeff Beck
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 00:13
Jon Stewart.  I still find him funny.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 03:05
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

I thought this was about Rod Stewart and Jeff beck


This.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 03:14

I really don't understand why you made this thread. PA is not someplace you are going to get much support for Glenn Beck.

JJ is right about Jon, but mom needs to chill out. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 14:35
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I really don't understand why you made this thread. PA is not someplace you are going to get much support for Glenn Beck.

JJ is right about Jon, but mom needs to chill out. 

 
 
Never!  Go to your room, young man.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 19:05
More than zero votes for Beck? I am disappointed, progarchives. He is quite literally absolutely bananas. I have nothing wrong with people who have a right-wing view on politics, but come on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 20:04
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

More than zero votes for Beck? I am disappointed, progarchives. He is quite literally absolutely bananas. I have nothing wrong with people who have a right-wing view on politics, but come on.


LOL, you taking this poll seriously bro?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 21:09
They're both nuts in their own way, this poll should be moved to JFF.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 22:29
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:


Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

More than zero votes for Beck? I am disappointed, progarchives. He is quite literally absolutely bananas. I have nothing wrong with people who have a right-wing view on politics, but come on.
LOL, you taking this poll seriously bro?
I'm disappointed we fans of prog rock must be so predictable in your book....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 22:49
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

They're both nuts in their own way, this poll should be moved to JFF.
lol

Stewart tells the truth in a comedic fashion.

Beck tells lies in a comedic fashion.
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 22:54
Originally posted by The Monodrone The Monodrone wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

They're both nuts in their own way, this poll should be moved to JFF.
lol

Stewart tells the lies in a non-comedic fashion.

Beck tells half-truths, half-insane-political/religious-ramblings in a sometimes comedic fashion.
 
 fixed that for you


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 23:34
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by The Monodrone The Monodrone wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

They're both nuts in their own way, this poll should be moved to JFF.
lol
Stewart tells the lies in a non-comedic fashion.
Beck tells half-truths, half-insane-political/religious-ramblings in a sometimes comedic fashion.
 fixed that for you
I think Jon cares more about the truth than Glenn. Usually when he's distorting the truth somewhat it's so he can continue to appear relentlessly centrist rather than for comedy purposes.

Also, just because you do not find something funny does not mean it is not presented in a comedic fashion. ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2011 at 23:56
HP, you baffle me. You are a mix of a right-wing fascist and a left-wing... fascist. So actually you're quite coherent

Beck is less funny than Stewart. Beck is not a comedian. Stewart is. But Beck sometimes says truths, while Stewart rarely does.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:03
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by The Monodrone The Monodrone wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

They're both nuts in their own way, this poll should be moved to JFF.
lol
Stewart tells the lies in a non-comedic fashion.
Beck tells half-truths, half-insane-political/religious-ramblings in a sometimes comedic fashion.
 fixed that for you
I think Jon cares more about the truth than Glenn. Usually when he's distorting the truth somewhat it's so he can continue to appear relentlessly centrist rather than for comedy purposes.

Also, just because you do not find something funny does not mean it is not presented in a comedic fashion. ;-)
 
 
If his shtick can appear relentlessly centrist to anyone than the country has a larger perception (or stupidy) problem than I thought.
 
Also, didn't I tell you to go to your room, young man?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:06
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

HP, you baffle me. You are a mix of a right-wing fascist and a left-wing... fascist. So actually you're quite coherent

Beck is less funny than Stewart. Beck is not a comedian. Stewart is. But Beck sometimes says truths, while Stewart rarely does.
I am curious what views of Jon you would consider fascist. 

I don't pretend I have an internally consistent ideology. :P However, as for your and mom's complaints that Jon lies while Glenn is sometimes right, I would say that your perception of reality is much different from most people's. ;-)
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

If his shtick can appear relentlessly centrist to anyone than the country has a larger perception (or stupidy) problem than I thought.
He's been more on the offensive against Fox and the Republicans lately, partly because of his liberal ideology and partly because they're easier targets, but most of the time, especially when he gets all serious, he tries to paint both sides as more or less equally stupid and what we need to do to move the country forward is to ignore all these crazy extremists on both sides and come an agreement that 80% of America would agree to, but they don't have the chance because the other 20% is so much louder and more motivated that they drown out all rational discourse. I don't know what else you would call that. Wikipedia tells me that centrism has some conations that I was not aware of, so if you would like to replace that with the word moderate that is fine with me. 
Quote Also, didn't I tell you to go to your room, young man?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:26
Glenn Beck is a preacher. That's what he is at the core. He's not an informer, and he's not reasonable. He's driven by religious, irrational patriotism and neo-con zeal. He is the biggest drama queen on television/radio. He is the Nancy Grace of whatever he does.

Jon Stewert, well. He's self-deprecating enough for me to like him, but the clash between everyone in his target audience and himself being liberal and actually trying not to be liberal makes his show naught but comedy. He's nothing even close to serious. I suppose that doesn't need clarification.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:33
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


Jon Stewert, well. He's self-deprecating enough for me to like him
On the rare occasions I tune in, I can't stand it when he makes a joke about how bad the joke he just told was. You have a dozen writers, STOP IT! The primary failing of both TDS and CR as comedy shows is that, because of the time constraints, much of the shows are a limited number of jokes they cycle through and apply to the current situation. This quickly becomes tedious, and I don't know how people can stand to watch the shows every day for years now and still laugh. 

Also, the crowd not shutting up for the first minute of each episode is the most annoying thing ever. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:53
HP, I didn't say Stewart is a fascist (though his love of big government is worrisome), I said YOU are a fascist . Sometimes you appear on the conservative side, sometimes you have socialist tendencies, but always your view seems to be that whatever is chosen has to be the only way, any decision has to be driven down people's throats, by force, totally absolutist. Left or right wing, fascism is the name.

And the fact that most people disagree with one's views doesn't make one wrong or the rest right. Tsk tsk where's the logic? In fact, I'd say most of the time less people are going to be right than wrong. Also, i'd say the US being so screwed as it is of late has a lot to do with the majority being dead wrong for a LONG time.

Beck of course ruins the truths he sometimes says with his neo-con beliefs and his religiousness. He's also somewhat fascist behind that cover of liberty he tries go portray.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:57
T, you are putting more thought into my posts than I am. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2011 at 01:04
well said.
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