Then again, what's the point of the poll?

Does evrything needs to have a point?

 

Beck is at best pathetic, at worst, dangerous.

 

For a right wing comedian, Dennis Miller was funny, even after he went openly right wing.  Then he just petered out.

He's still a joke is more like it.

 

And not a funny one. He's kind of like uncalled-for flatuence. It's just not funny.

That makes a person a god? I've been doing this wrong...

 

Never!  Go to your room, young man.

lol

Stewart tells the truth in a comedic fashion.

Beck tells lies in a comedic fashion.

 

 fixed that for you

I think Jon cares more about the truth than Glenn. Usually when he's distorting the truth somewhat it's so he can continue to appear relentlessly centrist rather than for comedy purposes.

Also, just because you do not find something funny does not mean it is not presented in a comedic fashion. ;-)

 

If his shtick can appear relentlessly centrist to anyone than the country has a larger perception (or stupidy) problem than I thought.

 

Also, didn't I tell you to go to your room, young man?

I am curious what views of Jon you would consider fascist. 

I don't pretend I have an internally consistent ideology. :P However, as for your and mom's complaints that Jon lies while Glenn is sometimes right, I would say that your perception of reality is much different from most people's. ;-)

On the rare occasions I tune in, I can't stand it when he makes a joke about how bad the joke he just told was. You have a dozen writers, STOP IT! The primary failing of both TDS and CR as comedy shows is that, because of the time constraints, much of the shows are a limited number of jokes they cycle through and apply to the current situation. This quickly becomes tedious, and I don't know how people can stand to watch the shows every day for years now and still laugh. 

Also, the crowd not shutting up for the first minute of each episode is the most annoying thing ever. 

 

You are being completely unfair to bananas.

 

All I know of Stewart are youtube clips people send me. They're funny, but I wonder how much boring crap you have to wade through to get some funny stuff.

 

I'm boring...when I want LOLs I'll put on What About Bob or Tropic Thunder. Politics makes me cry.

Beck only parrots the right wing extemists distortions (mostly) about how the "left" (actually centrists) are taking your freedoms (sound like South Park shouting "They took our jobs!"), while ignoring the Republicans' war on the middle class.  His loss of his show could be the start of his irrelevance (with any luck). 

 

I think you got hold of a bad batch of crack or something.

 

I guess anything short of a Michael Moore dictatorship would be far too right wing for you.  You know, the whole right vs. left argument is just a smoke screen anyway.  Both parties are authoritarian parties and have veered away from the nation's founding principals.  Your problem, along with those on the "right" and "left", is that you feel everyone needs to live by your standards.  From where I stand, you might as well be Sean Hannity.

 

What required a response?  The percentages you pulled out of your ass?

Your first paragraph here is also pointless.  As I mentioned above, the buzzwords don't mean anything.  It doesn't matter what the labels are in other countries.

 

A true "centrist" in America today is just someone unable to decide which of the two current extremes they'd rather bend over and take it from.  I suppose that beats the rank and file members of each of the two extremes, though, who are more than happy to take it (and force others to take it) from their leaders while being downright outraged when the other side is in power and uses a slightly different lube.

 

real liberalism have both some roots in equality for all and equal rights to every one, but they also are rooted in nationalisme and national libaration movements, spessially in Norway during the campeins to get us out of the union with Sweden it was the Liberal Left (the oldest party in Norway) ho was the agitaters the ones hew held the flaming speaches, all the major writers/poets Henrik Wergeland, Bjoernstjerne Bjoernson, Arne Garborg, Henrik Ibsen was Liberal Leftist and fueld on the growing cultural nationalisme (one reason that political nationalsime never become so big in Norway during the libration period is becouse it was more cultural centerd, on cultural nationalisme revival not as a political tool)  but to reinvoke a feeling that after 700 years of being subdued ether to Denmark or Sweden, which gave birth to some of Norways and Europs national romantic artist, becouse it was fueld by the intence nationalisme and liberationalistic enviroment in between 1850 to 1910.

 

 

 

...no I didn't, I thought Rod and Jeff too  and that's the Truth

 

 

Power is power, politics is politics. The differences between the parties lies mainly in which set of people they exchange favors with. Occasionally this coincides with some ideology, but that shifts quite a bit. The most astute capital owners of course have their tendrils in both parties.

 

Few leaders back up from the system enough to look at the system as a whole and make decisions outside the microcosm of these exchanges. Those that actually have some perspective rarely have much ability to change the dynamic.

 

The only solution I see is a drastic simplification in the way we exchange resources.

 

Working from bottom to top:

Because he isn't.  Jon Stewart is at one of the two extremes.  He's decided who he wants to bend over for and uses what influence moronic college students/professors grant him to try and get them to make the same decision.  Stewart is far more dispicable than Beck because he tries to hind his motives behind his pseudo-comedy.

 

I've been talking about how labels are incorrectly used.  It doesn't help to further muddy the waters with unnecissary comparisons to countries with different systems.

 

Not sure why you keep bringing up that rally.  Beck had about 3-4 times as many people at his just weeks before Stewart's.  So what

That's an illusion fed to us all to distract us from real issues.

T, I think centrist as a label is more useful as the middle of the two poles most people find acceptable rather than the exact 50% between complete totalitarianism and anarchy.

If you honestly think The Daily Show presents an extreme leftist viewpoint, you have no idea what he is actually saying (probably because you don't watch the show because you don't find him funny). You should know what you're talking about before you get outraged. And if you have been watching his show for whatever reason and still think that then your grasp on reality is even more tenuous than I thought.

I keep bringing up the rally because the little speech at the end and what he said leading up to it is culmination of his moderate/centrist presentation. 

And not that it matters at all to our discussion, but http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021284-503544.html" rel="nofollow - your numbers on Jon/Glenn Beck are inverted . 

Jon Stewart is a shill for his side and the attempts he makes to appear "centrist" by throwing in the occasional softball democrat joke are the most laughable part of his program.  The democrat jokes are an intellectually insulting attempt to fool the feeble minded into believing he holds "moderate" beliefs.  Conan O'Brien's monologue everynight is the same way but at least Conan isn't trying to make himself part of the political scene.

 

Man, your joke posts really are funny

Anyway, HP, you've finally proved in the SR that you are actually a fascist. 
   

It was a more delicate way of putting that I'm tired of trying to seriously engage Mom and won't be responding to his posts about politics anymore.

Anyway, HP, you've finally proved in the SR that you are actually a fascist.

I am doing the people's work. 
 

Words.

I agree with this. 

Deep 

When did I say anything to the contrary?  I don't recall defending Republicans once.  In fact, I believe I've blasted "left", "right", and "centrist" alike on this thread.

 

George Stroumboulopolos beets them both though but yeah Stewart and Colbert are really awesome hosts,

 

but Craig Ferguson is the funnyest host and one of the funnyest hosts ever,

Ferguson has had me rolling on the floor sometimes.

 

Beck is a lunatic.

You can never trust the head of Richard Nixon. He might come into your house at night and wreck up the place.

Anyway, Stewart, Colbert, and Ferguson are all great in their own rights.  Colbert has some of the best satire on T.V. (the best being the Onion News Network), Stewart has amazing correspondents and Ferguson has Geoff Peterson and Secretariat.