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Posted: April 15 2011 at 12:22
Deep Purple for me, not really a big fan of Doors though I like a few songs. By the way, Deep Purple were one of the most important influences on metal music and hard rock and that they shared the same era as Led Zep, The Who and Sabbath should not, as it unjustly does, lead to their being underestimated. I don't know when or rather whether In Rock will earn its rightful place among pioneering metal albums.
With that said, I do have a gripe that a band of their talent and firepower became rather AC DC like. They could and ought to have done so much more. In all seriousness, if you have heard a couple or more of the important DP albums, you've heard all you need to know about their style and the rest is for the fans.
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Posted: April 15 2011 at 13:32
You know really two different comparisons. If you compare the 60's output I have to go with the Doors as they had much more adventurous music in that period Deep Purple was solid but nothing special but Deep Purple became a much better band during their 1970-74 period. So really I think it is wash.
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Posted: April 15 2011 at 20:34
If we compare the initial albums, which I did, well then The Doors win. There's nothing after LA Woman to even consider. It's all garbage. DP on the other hand kept on Space Truckin all night long.
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Posted: April 15 2011 at 22:31
BaldFriede wrote:
I would not say that Deep Purple had better instrumentalists; they only played flashier. I like both, and for me both are full progressive rock bands.Songs like "Riders on the Storm" or "When the Music's Over" are real gems of progressive rock.
You wouldn't say that Deep Purple had better instrumentalists......Really? As far as better instrumentalists are you talking about technical ability, groove, taste, sense of time- what exactly? The Doors were excellent song writers, but to put them in the same league as Deep Purple is debatable. Becuase what you consider being flashy, I consider to be musicians who know there instruments very well and Deep Purple are and still solid musicians over The Doors.
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Posted: April 16 2011 at 00:43
jaybird77 wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
I would not say that Deep Purple had better instrumentalists; they only played flashier. I like both, and for me both are full progressive rock bands.Songs like "Riders on the Storm" or "When the Music's Over" are real gems of progressive rock.
You wouldn't say that Deep Purple had better instrumentalists......Really? As far as better instrumentalists are you talking about technical ability, groove, taste, sense of time- what exactly? The Doors were excellent song writers, but to put them in the same league as Deep Purple is debatable. Becuase what you consider being flashy, I consider to be musicians who know there instruments very well and Deep Purple are and still solid musicians over The Doors.
I would say Densmore and Manzarek are both excellent. I don't really put Krieger in the same league as Blackmore though. Would be interesting to hear BF's take on that.
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Posted: April 16 2011 at 07:27
jaybird77 wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
I would not say that Deep Purple had better instrumentalists; they only played flashier. I like both, and for me both are full progressive rock bands.Songs like "Riders on the Storm" or "When the Music's Over" are real gems of progressive rock.
You wouldn't say that Deep Purple had better instrumentalists......Really? As far as better instrumentalists are you talking about technical ability, groove, taste, sense of time- what exactly? The Doors were excellent song writers, but to put them in the same league as Deep Purple is debatable. Becuase what you consider being flashy, I consider to be musicians who know there instruments very well and Deep Purple are and still solid musicians over The Doors.
I much prefer the Doors, both as a unit, and in originality. But I would have to concede that in pure technical terms, the musicians in Deep Purple are superior as far as the drums and guitar are concerned. I wouldn't like to rate Manzarek ahead of Lord, but he certainly is at least his equal, and does a far more difficult job than Lord ever had to do, so that one's open to question.
But as I said earlier, Densmore and Kreiger were both unique in the way they played and the artistry they brought to that table. I don't believe that Paice or Blackmore could have done that job in as good a way, though musicians as competent as those two would always do a great job.
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Posted: April 16 2011 at 08:34
aginor wrote:
Deep Purple had more line-up changes then Zeppelin and Sabbath combined...
Well, what about it?
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Posted: April 16 2011 at 11:15
Snow Dog wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
aginor wrote:
Deep Purple had more line-up changes then Zeppelin and Sabbath combined...
Well, what about it?
Zeppelin didn't have lineup changes so you might as well just say sabbath.
Actually, Sabbath had plenty of line up changes proportionate to the number of albums they made but the quintessential line up had a long innings unlike DP Mark II.
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Posted: April 17 2011 at 09:43
It's hard to see past The Doors, one of most important and influential bands in rock. Deep Purple were more followers than leaders, but were among the best musicians of their time. But at the end of the day, it's the concept that counts the most. Actors are important, but never as important as the play.
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Posted: April 17 2011 at 13:28
The Doors. The Doors have to be highest on my chart of frequency of vocals vs amount that I enjoy. I never listen to them anymore but back in high-school a day didn't go by without them. S/T and Morrison Hotel are fantastic (as are all their albums). In fact their consistency vs how much average work of Deep Purple's you have to sift through is the reason I voted for the Doors. However, DP's live improvs would likely win.
But yes, DP are more technically inclined. Though I definitely prefer Morrison (and his lyrics) to DP's vocalists. Also I like John Densmore a WHOLE LOT more than Ian Paice. I like Ian, but Densmore's drumming has so much feel.
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Posted: April 18 2011 at 02:09
Purple have some great songs, and Ritchie Blackmore is among my favorite flashy guitarists, but I have to agree with the consensus that The Doors are more emotionally resonant. Add to that that The Doors contained some highly underrated musicians who could play in a stunning variety of styles (Goth, pop, jazz, blues, psychedelic/art rock) and I cast a vote for perhaps America's greatest rock band.
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Posted: April 18 2011 at 04:41
Not comparing like for like, so difficult other than personal taste being the arbiter. No question though that the historically-important band is The Doors.
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