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Equality 7-2521 
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
 Posted: April 08 2011 at 14:51 |
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Hate to say go Yankees, but I really want the Sox to go 0-7. Slugfest tied up right now.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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crimhead
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Posted: April 08 2011 at 14:56 |
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I would like to see that as well. I liked it when Tony LaRussa walked out of a press conference because he couldn't find anymore ways to answer the same question that was asked 4 times. Why are the Cardinals bats sluggish? |
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Equality 7-2521
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: April 08 2011 at 15:11 |
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Because each player has only about 24 plate appearances. BABIP is incredibly variant in that sample size as well as every statistic. You may as well ask why a coin came up on heads after one throw.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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JJLehto
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Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: April 08 2011 at 15:26 |
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God Hughes really doomed us today. The hitting has been great from the start, and Colon in relief has been right on, but such a hole to dig out of.
This is his second game with velocity pretty down and bad looking stuff. Ah well, I always hold hope to the end. They always have the ability to slug out of any deficit. Edited by JJLehto - April 08 2011 at 15:27 |
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JJLehto
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Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: April 08 2011 at 15:31 |
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Also it appears Manny is done being Manny, but he's going out in typical fashion!
Was facing a 100 game suspension for some violation of drug policy, so he's decided to retire. Godspeed Manny, I'll always remember you as the a****le who was a great hitter, until you decided to take 5 seconds to run to base and fall sick with "mysterious illnesses" Good player though |
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Equality 7-2521
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: April 08 2011 at 15:34 |
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Good riddance juicer.
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JJLehto
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Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: April 08 2011 at 16:24 |
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Well, Yanks played well but what can ya do.
Hughes better step up though. A two inning, 6 run outing is unacceptable. Especially against a team that hasn't been able to make runs if the umps let em start on third... Edited by JJLehto - April 08 2011 at 16:24 |
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timothy leary
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Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: April 08 2011 at 17:08 |
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Manny retires, another candidate for the hall of shame, actually they could field a pretty good team, Denny Mclain for starting pitcher, last 30 game winner, pete rose for 2nd base, bonds in the of, Mcguire at first, sammy sosa in the of, rafael in the of
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JJLehto
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Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: April 08 2011 at 18:51 |
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Sad thing is, Pete Rose is forever shunned from the HoF and regarded as a disgrace of baseball while over the last 2 decades or so, thousands numbers of players have been cheating the actual game (I'm sure it goes down to lower levels).
I have lightened up a bit. I realized the good players are still good, and roids were used in conjunction with their training...and some players only did it to help heal from injuries/maintain somewhat of a career...but competitive edge is competitive edge. I really am not sure if what Pete did in comparison makes him the devil he is.... |
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rushfan4
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66567 |
Posted: April 09 2011 at 10:07 |
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Whether true or not I do not know, but at least from what he says (take that for what it is worth) Pete Rose claimed to have only bet on the Reds to win or bet other games with insider information. Apparently, he would call up Sparky before a game and ask him how Jack Morris' arm was or some such thing and then bet the game accordingly. He claimed that he never bet on the Reds to lose or was involved in throwing games. If this is true, then from his team's standpoint anyways, I don't think that was that bad of a thing. He had extra incentive to try and make sure his team won. From the insider trading standpoint, the only person who he was "hurting" was the bookie who was operating the illegal gambling operation anyways, so not really anything wrong with that either, per se. Aside from the whole ethics thing and integrity of the game thing. The problem with gambling is once you go in the hole and you start owing the bookies money or they will break your arms and legs. When you start shaving points and throwing games in order to win money on your bets to pay back the bookies, or fixing the games so that the bookies win games that they have the insider information on, etc... Whether this ever occurred with Pete Rose, I do not know, and I don't recall ever hearing that it ever happened, and he certainly never admitted to it happening. I suspect that it probably did and I think that baseball either knows or suspects that it happened too.
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manofmystery
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Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: April 09 2011 at 10:30 |
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One thing we can say for sure, gambling did not effect his play and that is all that should matter with the HOF. "Shoeless" Joe Jackson should also be in the Hall, by the way.
Hell, if Ty Cobb and Kenesaw "Mountain" Landis are in then baseball can't really keep anyone out on the basis of character.
Directly cheating on the field (Bonds, McGwire, Sosa) to pad your Hall credentials is a completely different story, though.
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Equality 7-2521
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: April 09 2011 at 10:35 |
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^ Complete agree. I could care less about what Rose did. Juicing is a different story.
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rushfan4
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 10:50 |
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Juicing was the sign of the times. Many or most players were doing it. And I have no doubt that management knew it, and probably encouraged it. And the media knew it and just didn't care. "If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying hard enough".
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Padraic
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 11:25 |
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Lee had a rough outing yesterday. :(
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rushfan4
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 11:30 |
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Opening day was a blast yesterday. The Tigers won 5 to 2. They scored 4 runs in the 1st inning and basically nothing the rest of the game. It was cold, but it stopped raining before we got down there so we stayed dry and that was a good thing. |
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Stooge
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Joined: April 09 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Status: Offline Points: 1003 |
Posted: April 09 2011 at 14:01 |
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A second good start last night by Kyle Drabek last night in a no decision aside from some early shakiness. Jays rallied to beat the Angels 3-2. The bullpen has been really impressive so far.
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Equality 7-2521
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: April 09 2011 at 15:41 |
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You could tell it was going to be bad when he walked someone. I had to deal with hearing the people on talk radio saying how we wasted money on him and he's terrible. |
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Padraic
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 15:47 |
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Haha, well that's dumb. He was great in his first start. But a lot of people make much ado about April baseball for some reason. Also, YEAH CHOOCH |
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Stooge
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Joined: April 09 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Status: Offline Points: 1003 |
Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:30 |
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Tough Jays loss in extra innings. It went 14 innings, but since it was a west coast game I went to bed before it ended.
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crimhead
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Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:45 |
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And you call yourself a Jays fan.  |
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