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moshkito
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:24 |
Hi,
And this goes along with many other quotes and comments on what "progressive" music is, and "must" sound like ... and Roye Albrighton (Nektar) has made a similar comment ... you have to stand up for yourself and not worry about the critics ... and in this case YES became the darlings because they got more famous, and your band and that other one (Badger?) ... could not get one iota of credit or respect.
And still don't.
Maybe there is a reason for the curse around Yes, and all the hatred and rip-offs and stories and problems and what not? Sherry? Peter? ... have you both not said ... good riddance a couple of times? ... I would have!
And to the critics? ... if you worry about the critics, your music is over ... turn out the lights! Edited by moshkito - March 31 2011 at 16:24 |
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sherrynoland
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:00 |
You're right, KG. They're lip-synching to their record, as was often the case in TV shows back then. The only thing 'live' was THEM. They did perform live on "Midnight Special" and some other shows, but no one has come forth with video yet. Their "Psychosync" album is the only known live performance tape. It's from Midnight Special and a WLIR radio broadcast. |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 15:45 |
You might want to give TheTwo Sides Of Peter Banks from 1973 a listen if you haven't already. Then Focus guitarist Jan Akkerman is featured as well as other members of Flash, John Wetton from King Crimson as well as Phil Collins. Very diverse musically. Flash without vocals sometimes. |
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kglenz
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 13:22 |
I watched the video, one thing puzzles me, I could swear I hear an organ...but I don't see anyone playing an organ...KG
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kglenz
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 13:18 |
I was just listening to "in the can" last night. Question: I noticed Peter Banks has out other material (besides early Genesis), like "Empire" or some of his solo albums, anything of this similar to Flash or worth a listen?
Thanks, KG
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sherrynoland
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 09:50 |
Vintage footage of Flash in 1972 on "Superstars of Rock"...
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sherrynoland
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 16:31 |
I posted the February Goldmine article on Flash here -
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76154&FID=19 |
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sherrynoland
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Posted: February 24 2011 at 04:33 |
The February Goldmine Magazine is a special Prog Rock edition and has feature articles on Flash, Yes, ELP and Genesis....and more.
http://www.goldminemag.com/features/goldmines-prog-rock-issue-on-newsstands-now http://www.goldminemag.com/article/yes-offshoot-flash-reforms-for-a-new-album Edited by sherrynoland - August 04 2013 at 16:29 |
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sherrynoland
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Posted: February 15 2011 at 17:00 |
That's right, I understand "Psychosync" was first released on vinyl, and a few of those may still be out there.
It's certainly not a good way to be introduced to Flash. Their studio albums are definitely superior. But for Flash fans, and hardcore proggies, it's a bit of an historical document, and a bit of fun to hear them chatting, hear Jerry Lee Lewis introduce them on "Midnight Special", and get the feel of the complexity, abandon and energy of Flash live. Mind you, this was early in their short career. They got even more proficient and 'tight' after a couple years touring. There's a review here on PA by 'DAVE M'. He liked all the studio Flash albums, but didn't like this CD much. Here are the liner notes written by Peter Banks - a pretty forthright assessment: (by the way, for those who didn't know - like me - 'vindaloo' is a hot curry!) "Psychosync" Liner Notes What’s in a name? Flash was a lot more apposite than we could have ever imagined when I conjured it up over a mediocre vindaloo and warm lager after one of our first rehearsals. Like most new bands, we regarded the name as a slightly embarrassing, but temporary, handle. Eventually divine inspiration would strike to reveal in all its glory, the designated epithet appropriate to the gathering of four young, talented, good looking musicians; it never happened. We were stuck with Flash and seldom has a band so lived up to its moniker. The music was fast and furious, edgy and seldom relaxed. We were Flash. In our live performances we came on loud and strong with a musical athleticism that sometimes resorted to decoration rather than expression. Our songs became lengthy Olympian events which probably puzzled and intimidated a few audiences, but we never let that distract us, the stage was our domain – some nights I felt John Coltrane, Jimi Hendrix and God were peeping out of the f-holes of my Gibson 335 guitar. We could take one of our compositions, celebrate every corner, angle and riff, and leave it squeezed dry and breathless, often leaving us in the same physical state. What now strikes me whilst listening to these live cuts is the bizarre twists and turns, the convoluted arrangements, the groove that would suddenly veer off tangentially into yet another riff sounding like it was trying to bite its own tail – all of this sounded quite normal to us, which of course it was not. We often played ten chords when three would have been better but we could never be accused of resorting to cliche or mediocrity. We were Flash. On a good night we blazed like our name with music that could shimmer and sparkle, twist, turn and dazzle; music that could inspire and agitate in equal measure. For a trio of guitar, bass and drums, we played like a five or six-piece and I still marvel at singer Colin Carter’s ability to sing over the top of music that sometimes had the subtlety and bombast of a world war. “We have no keyboard player; I can do it all on guitar”, was my war-cry, though I sometimes secretly wished for ‘The mighty swirling organ’ of Tony Kaye, who played on our first album. On this CD live performances from U.S. radio and television show up all the flaws and cracks in our musical architecture. There are incidents when [we] sound like we are jumping through hoops instead of just grooving, or even relaxing. But leisure and blandness was never part of our agenda – we were Flash and we could make a riff stand on its head, walk a tight-rope and through fire – all in the name of rock music. Our songs were long and our trousers were tight. In the short space of two years we recorded and released three albums, had a hit single in the USA, I did a solo album; we toured Europe, America a lot, and even went to Australia for one gig – and still found time to do our laundry. In America we played to the biggest and smallest audiences, the best and worst venues; bars and stadiums. After two years of this we became a really tight musical unit. The performances and the songs got faster as did our tempers – we broke up for all the usual and wrong reasons. A disinterested record company and confused management infected our morale and Flash collapsed in true unspectacular Spinal Tap fashion in a Hilton Hotel in Alberquerque, New Mexico. It was a shame really. Despite all the usual accusations of pomposity and self indulgence leveled at progressive rock, Flash has a vibrancy and optimism that transcended all the stereotypes of seventies rock music – we really loved our music and sometimes it showed. Our critics and detractors accused us of “sounding like Yes”. Of coarse we did. I was one of the founding members that helped to make (for better or worse – richer or poorer) the strange beast that band has become today. To those critics and fault-finders who expect a musician to re-invent himself every six months – I say f**k you! We were Flash, our life was short but burned bright – we came and went in a Flash. Peter Banks January 1997 Edited by sherrynoland - February 16 2011 at 15:11 |
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kglenz
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Posted: February 14 2011 at 18:43 |
That is the title of the albums I was wondering about. "Psychosync" - it is now being sold on vinyl at a few stores in my area, is it a good live album?
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moshkito
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Posted: February 14 2011 at 14:36 |
It's just pathetic that the folks that owned "Midnight Special" and "Rock Concert" have not made a better effort to release many of these things ... there were several bands, that did very well off those shows, and in some cases they upstaged the main performer, who (sometimes) was lazy! ... In one of these Carmen blew out David Bowie and got Ian Anderson's ears popping the same night ... and soon enough the bass player was with Ian until his death from cancer later.
There are many stories that can be culled from these and many really good performances ... a band like Flash, or Carmen, had a lot more to gain than the famous ones!
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sherrynoland
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Posted: February 14 2011 at 05:28 |
The only live Flash CD I'm aware of is one called "Psychosync". It was
originally a bootleg of performances from the TV show, "Midnight
Special", and a WLIR radio concert in NY. It was released in 1997 by
Blueprint Records. Don't know if it's still available.
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kglenz
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Posted: February 12 2011 at 20:01 |
I also have the 3 flash albums and like their music quite a bit. Just wondering if anyone knows about this recent release of some live concert recordings? I've noticed it on LP & have been tempted to give it a try but I thought I'd ask some other "flashers" prior.
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sherrynoland
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Posted: February 12 2011 at 16:35 |
Posting from March 2015 in a time machine called "Edit Post". If only I knew then what I know now...
I'd probably do it all again... Still rockin'! Edited by sherrynoland - March 02 2015 at 15:28 |
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sherrynoland
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Posted: February 11 2011 at 05:25 |
Party, party! Where?
Edited by sherrynoland - March 02 2015 at 15:26 |
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cstack3
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Posted: February 09 2011 at 16:06 |
Yeah!! CD RELEASE PARTY!!!
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sherrynoland
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Posted: February 09 2011 at 15:23 |
Something new for Flash fans!
Collector and fan George Mizer has posted for the first time anywhere, the only available live footage of FLASH performing in 1972 on TV's "Superstars of Rock" - https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=481958105281490 The band recently reunited and headlined at the ProgDay Festival 2010. http://www.reverbnation.com/flashbennettcarter More video - http://www.youtube.com/user/sherrynoland New CD release upcoming. Edited by sherrynoland - March 02 2015 at 15:23 |
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cannon
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Posted: January 27 2011 at 05:19 |
^^^ That's right. I got the two Jans mixed up. I was thinking of Hammer's solo album Oh Yeah? Akkerman had quite a bit of contribution to "The Two Sides Of..."
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sherrynoland
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Posted: January 26 2011 at 17:34 |
"Two Sides of Peter Banks" was made at the same time Flash was recording their third album, "Out of Our Hands". There was quite a bit of running 'to and fro' going on, and was a sign of the 'splintering' of the band about to take place - the beginning of the end.
The third Flash album - Ray played bass on a few tracks on Banks' "Two Sides", as did John Whetton, and Flash drummer, Mike Hough, as well as Phil Collins, and Steve Hackett. Jan Hammer wasn't on the album -- it was Jan Akkerman of Focus. |
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cannon
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Posted: January 26 2011 at 15:56 |
I've had a hard time to find any CDs of his band after Flash called Empire in which he formed together with his wife. One thing I recently found out that he replaced Mick Abrahams in Blodwyn Pig for a short stint but nothing became of it. His solo album, Two Sides Of... is excellent, with Jan Hammer and others.
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