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Topic: "Flash" - 1971 to PresentPosted By: sherrynoland
Subject: "Flash" - 1971 to Present
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 19:29
In 1980 I met Ray Bennett at "The Rainbow", a musician's hang-out on the Sunset Strip in L.A. I had never heard of his Brit progrock band "Flash", even though a few years earlier I lived only a few blocks from the Strip and must have driven past the huge billboard on the side of the Whiskey-A-Go-Go displaying their infamous first album cover - a 'flash' of panties artfully designed by Hipgnosis.
The band had broken up abruptly several year earlier, in spite of a whirlwind two and a half years of successful touring, three notable albums and a Top Forty single.
I liked the man - very much - so I listened to the music. I liked it. I was very impressed. I learned the Flash story, met the band members, who were all living in L.A. at the time, and encouraged them to reunite. A couple of rehearsals took place, but it all ended badly when a drunken Peter Banks started a punch-up with Ray at a weekly jam session at The Central, the club on Sunset Blvd. now known as The Viper Room.
I've lived with Ray ever since, following his career and what now seems like the inevitable road that led to Flash's reunion in 2010. It's been a long and winding road!
I'm starting this thread as a dedicated spot on PA to share all things Flash. I'd love to hear from any of you who have stories to tell, or questions or comments for the band.
I'll start the thread by posting a very up-close and personal conversation/interview with Ray and lead singer, Colin Carter, recorded at Ray's home (and mine) in Las
Vegas. Colin and Ray talk publicly for the first time about Peter Banks, the
"Flash" break-up, their reunion, progressive rock and much more. Hope you enjoy it...
Update: Since this interview was recorded, Flash was warmly received at their reunion debut headlining the 2010 ProgDay Festival, and a good time was had by all. They played a mix of their classic repertoire and new tunes as well as a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song, "Hurt" which one reviewer called the "surprise" of the festival. Ray and Colin like the Flash version of the song so much, they decided to include it on the new album, which has delayed the release date, but should be well worth the wait.
Replies: Posted By: Steven in Atlanta
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 10:58
Picked up the 1st Flash elpee when it was released - the Yes connection was the catalyst, of course, but the Small Beginnings single, which was getting a bit of Top 40 airplay, definitely sealed the deal. Later that year, they came through my town (Charleston, SC) opening for the most unpleasant Black Oak Arkansas. A great set, too, with an early airing of Black & White, if I recall. I remember being slightly disappointed that Tony Kaye wasn't along for the ride, but the sound was still great and full. Particularly loved that dirty and grimy bass sound from Ray which was easily as distinctive as Pete's nimble fretwork. Colin's vibrato at the time irked me a bit, particularly since his pitch appeared to be so good, but I've since grown to enjoy it as part of the whole Flash vibe. Glad the music is still live & kickin' today, which is the best part.
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 11:09
Saw Flash as support to Beck Bogert Appice at Loughborough Uni 1973 - one of the best double gigs I ever witnessed - and Pete Banks was definitely flash that night wrt his playing.
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 12:12
i love all 3 flash albums but know little about the band so this thread is brilliant and i had know idea about a reunion thats great stuff
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 21:31
I was fortunate to see Flash back up Wishbone Ash at the Chicago Auditorium Theater in 1973! Ray called it the "Wishbone Flash" tour, the band was brilliant!!
Thanks for starting this thread, Sherry!
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: November 23 2010 at 00:31
Flash...then and now...
1972 performance of one of their radio hits, "Children of the Universe" from the first album...
The video says this video is unavailable for copyright reasons, but it's still there on youtube. Can't seem to get it to post here, however, so here's the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO0POPPs-1U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO0POPPs-1U
In the rehearsal studio for the first run-through of the same song this year with the new Flash line-up...
Posted By: zhang00
Date Posted: November 23 2010 at 03:12
I like FLASH, which gives my life a lot of fun!
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 23 2010 at 03:59
cstack3 wrote:
I Ray called it the "Wishbone Flash" tour, the band was brilliant!!
My brother, who was a keen fan, embroidered a tee-shirt with the slogan Flashbone Yes for his then 3 favourite bands.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 23 2010 at 19:18
Hi,
I have to admit that what brought me to this album was not the cover ... but the fact that I had loved "The Yes Album" and immediately got the other 2 albums, and this was way before "Fragile" came out.
At the time, what got me into what is now called "progressive" (many bands of which are not even close!), were the album covers and at the time, only Hipgnosis created covers that were interesting and said a lot about the music that was inside in the LP itself. Some of it was very pretty and attractive ... the rest ... at your own risk, since after all you are in California and the dis-eases (hehe!!!) get passed around as easily as a joint ... no different than anywhere else I suppose!
I can not, at the moment, tell you if it is good or great in my estimation. At the time I didn't think it was that good, and thought that it was a 2nd rate YES, but I don't think that my tastes then were as open as they are today, and again, I will have to listen to it again.
A lot of that music at the time, specially the London scene, lost its attactiveness for me. Why? It was getting repetitive and sounding the same, and the best music was already on KNAC, and not in KLOS or KMET at all ... and I went to the rest of the European scene, with whom a had a closer connection, being from Portugal. The Spanish and Italian scene were easy and right at home, the French was great, and the German scene even better.
That cover, on the first and second albums, were in my walls for many years. And I can not even tell you what the music sounds like ... which is bad in many ways ... but I also had in my walls about 50 other Hipgnosis covers and posters that were more indicative of the music I liked and loved and still listen to.
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Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: November 23 2010 at 23:38
Dick Heath wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
I Ray called it the "Wishbone Flash" tour, the band was brilliant!!
My brother, who was a keen fan, embroidered a tee-shirt with the slogan Flashbone Yes for his then 3 favourite bands.
That's a riot, Dick. Very clever, indeed...
I've heard others say that about the BBA/Flash gigs. Wish I could have been there. I can imagine.
Steve in Atlanta - Ray groaned when I mentioned the gigs with Black Oak. Nuf said....but glad you appreciated Ray's bass playing. Thanks for remembering with us.
Moshkito - glad you liked the covers!!
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 16:26
Flash's reunion debut headlining at ProgDay 2010...
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 16:06
Nothing definite or official yet, but...
Stan Whitaker - HTM/Oblivion Sun, and Ray Bennett - Flash, are discussing a joint tour. Both bands have a new release scheduled for early 2011. Should be interesting....
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: December 02 2010 at 19:24
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 00:54
Does anyone need subtitles?!! There was no alcohol involved in the making of this very spontaneous, live recording, I promise.
Ray is hard at work putting finishing touches on the new CD. Was hoping for a Christmas release, but after playing the Nine Inch Nails song, "Hurt" at ProgDay, they decided to include the song on the new album. Should be ready early 2011.
Ray and Colin send warm wishes to all for the holiday season, and look forward to a rocking New Year.
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 07:35
sherrynoland wrote:
Nothing definite or official yet, but...
Stan Whitaker - HTM/Oblivion Sun, and Ray Bennett - Flash, are discussing a joint tour. Both bands have a new release scheduled for early 2011. Should be interesting....
Stan from Happy the Man? Stan is a brilliant guitarist! Thank you Sherry for the thread. I found Colin to be very jaded and sarcastic regarding the nature of the subject matter on prog, composing, past events, etc, Jaded in a good way though. Colin cracks me up. Ray had some truly interesting points and being the spokesman for the most part, he reveals a great truth about the life style of musicians. The music business has always been unjust and a bit of a joke. It's a very sad and difficult situation. Stan Whitaker was filmed recently on a DVD about prog where he simply states "There is really no place for Happy the Man to play". I find that pathetic and insulting! Personally because I travelled the circuit playing up the street from them, and they basically weren't given the chance. Although many people loved them never causing a breakthrough connection globally. Flash, I did not folllow closely enough during the mad times but, I hope they remain content with their future efforts in whatever project they pursue. Ray was SOOOOOO correct in his statements regarding the difference between prog in the early days and the modern compartmentalized version of it today. Both Ray and Colin are characters and I wish them happiness in their calm pursuit in music. thanks for this thread Sherry! You are great!
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 16:23
Thanks for your comments, 'Toddler'.
I've never heard Ray spend much time talking about 'the music
business'. Just as he doesn't categorize the music he does, he doesn't
draw conclusions about what's possible, so he's just as enthusiastic as
ever. He loves what he does and is confident that others will too.
Like the line from one of his early songs, "Children of the Universe" -
"Be prepared to live your life with little on your table. Save your
hunger for your soul."
He meant it, and has followed his bliss wherever
it led.
He's truly happy for this opportunity to carry on with Flash. Like
Yes, Flash is one of the few 'prog' bands to have had a Top 40 hit.
He's convinced it can happen again. Keep listening. I guarantee there
will be lots of surprises!
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 08:07
I'm sorry Sherry. I was up in the ether with that statement. I meant Ray's history of the Flash band. His history on Peter Banks and the direction of the band. All is fascinating! Sometimes band members dread talking about the history of the band and it's change of members, transition from one style to another, etc. But, to the fans it's like reading an important book in prog history. For me personally, a discussion on the history of a band regarding the change of members has to do with being part of a business as well. Where some musicians may decide on a different musical direction which affects business and style of a band in the long term relationship. This may be the way I personally look upon things. In point I must add that Ray is an interesting guy and I love his history on the Flash band, current events or past activities, and just hearing Ray and Colin having a conversation with you has inspired me to purchase the Flash collection. I wish there were more people like you Sherry, doing this sort of thing, where it has a direct influence on fans to buy the band's music. What you are doing has a better affect on fans than the boring internet search into a band's history. Making this interview available to us all is a kind and thoughtful idea. I really appreciate the fact that Ray and Colin would participate and that you have gone the distance. This is the best way to get into FLASH! .....reading and watching the interview on this thread! thanks Sherry
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 16:15
It's my pleasure to share all things Flash, and I'm glad to hear you're
enjoying it. Ray is a very cool guy and absolutely unique, so it's not
really surprising to me that his music is too. And when Ray and Colin
get together, it's really something to see and hear! Lots of fun. I'm
looking forward to the new CD. It's truly a bit of a miracle that
they're together again and it feels good! Looking forward to lots of
gigs in 2011 - hopefully coming to a theatre near you!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Posted By: JeanFrame
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:27
I read your interesting interview with Flash member Ray Bennett, I genuinely enjoyed it, but was a bit puzzled to read that he said he had never heard of 1-2-3 or Clouds. This is from Marmalade skies:-
http://www.marmalade-skies.co.uk/june1971.htm
Ex-Yes
guitarist Peter Banks rehearses with
Clouds but does not join the group.
I guess Ray and Peter don't talk to each other much!
PS Sorry I mistakenly sent this by private message first, apologies for the repetition, being a newbie is my excuse!
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:52
Thanks for sharing this, Sherry... interesting thread ... now will check this flashy band asap HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 20:02
@ Rivertree - Great! I think you'll enjoy yourself. HAPPY NEW YEAR to you.
@ JeanFrame - I asked Ray again. Sorry, he still doesn't remember a
band with that name, though we had fun browsing the marmaladeskies
site. Thanks. He remembers most of the bands listed and many of the
gigs.
Ray was in America in June '71 -- returning to London in August
just in time to join Flash. Peter Banks says he had a 'fallow' period
after Blodwynn Pig and before Flash, so he might have had some brief
exchange with another band during that time, but didn't mention it. You might try asking him. myspace.com/guitaristpeterbanks.
Posted By: JeanFrame
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 01:15
Thanks Sherry, and thank you for the quick reply; but no need to ask Peter, it's obvious he knew 1-2-3 /Clouds well, after all, Syn and Yes supported them at the Marquee, and Blodwyn Pig's manager was Terry Ellis, who was also manager of Clouds. But I didn't know Ray was in USA till after all this happened, which could help to explain him not knowing, though Clouds did 2 major tours of USA in 1970. Then again, like they say of the 60s, if you can remember it, you weren't there!
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 03:33
Thanks for posting the interviews, Sherry! Interesting comments from Ray & Colin...nice to hear their voices (AND yours!).
I'm impressed that these guys have kept their friendship alive & strong after so many years....so many of the "classic prog" bands lost that bond of friendship early on, but these guys, including Peter Banks, kept at it for years, to their credit.
Ray and Colin are doing a wonderful job of keeping us connected with that era, and the new Flash tunes are great!
Looking forward to seeing them in Chicago! Cheers & Happy Birthday to Ray!
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 16:21
JeanFrame wrote:
....like they say of the 60s, if you can remember it, you weren't there!
Fortunately, Ray was never one to 'indulge' in much mind bending, and has a pretty good memory of those days.
@ Chuck Stack - Thanks, as always, for your kind words.
We may be making some headway in your town, Chuck. An acquaintance of mine might be able to help with bookings for Flash in the Chicago area - and beyond, for that matter. Too early to say, but sounds promising. I'll keep you posted!
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 16:34
sherrynoland wrote:
JeanFrame wrote:
....like they say of the 60s, if you can remember it, you weren't there!
Fortunately, Ray was never one to 'indulge' in much mind bending, and has a pretty good memory of those days. @ Chuck Stack - Thanks, as always, for your kind words.
We may be making some headway in your town, Chuck. An acquaintance of mine might be able to help with bookings for Flash in the Chicago area - and beyond, for that matter. Too early to say, but sounds promising. I'll keep you posted!
It's my greatest disappointment with many folks our age ... that think that only those that were stoned immaculate could appreciate anything in those days ... and that is simply not true and is an aberration of what the whole thing was about at that time ... and in my estimation it is those stone headsthat are the embarassment for the whole generation ...
There was a lot of very good music, arts, literature and people ... and they did a lot of very nice and very good things ... and they deserve the credit for their work, regardless.
And I'll be fighting to the day I go away from this earth for that beauty and care and music ... because not enough people are standing up to it!
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Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 16:47
Yes, Moshkito, and I believe it's one of the reasons Ray is still 'young' and in such good shape. He had his reckless moments, but generally didn't abuse his body, and has always been able to get 'high' on music and life. He's been steady, and true to his calling, through good times and bad.
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 10:14
I did not know Flash before. But I liked what I have heard now. I will check them out, thanks!
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: January 10 2011 at 22:51
Some archive performance photos of Flash in '72 and '73 have recently surfaced, submitted by a fan...
Yeah, that's the Flash I saw when they were backing up Wishbone Ash in 1973! Ray was all over the stage!
My God, how'd they manage to stay so thin?? I'm jealous!
Posted By: JeanFrame
Date Posted: January 12 2011 at 10:02
sherrynoland wrote:
JeanFrame wrote:
....like they say of the 60s, if you can remember it, you weren't there!
Fortunately, Ray was never one to 'indulge' in much mind bending, and has a pretty good memory of those days.
@ Chuck Stack - Thanks, as always, for your kind words.
We may be making some headway in your town, Chuck. An acquaintance of mine might be able to help with bookings for Flash in the Chicago area - and beyond, for that matter. Too early to say, but sounds promising. I'll keep you posted!
It's good news that Ray has survived the sixties better than most. And it's true that none of can notice everthing that goes on, I knew about Clouds and 1-2-3, but not Flash, and though Clouds had a much higher profile than Flash, I should still have known about them, having been aware of Peter (Banks). I thought his audition with Clouds was his last attempt at something serious. Interesting to hear the history I missed, thank you.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 20:39
JeanFrame wrote:
....Interesting to hear the history I missed, thank you.
You're welcome. Clouds, being late sixties, and Flash early 70's, they were slightly different eras.
I just listened to Clouds on youtube "Big Noise From Winnetka" - very cool! Ironic, because I worked (backstage) on Bette Midler's show here in Vegas and she opened with "Big Noise"...
Posted By: JeanFrame
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 06:45
sherrynoland wrote:
JeanFrame wrote:
....Interesting to hear the history I missed, thank you.
You're welcome. Clouds, being late sixties, and Flash early 70's, they were slightly different eras.
I just listened to Clouds on youtube "Big Noise From Winnetka" - very cool! Ironic, because I worked (backstage) on Bette Midler's show here in Vegas and she opened with "Big Noise"...
Oh wow! Thanks Sherry, I would love to have heard that, I'll 'Bette' it was good! To actually be there as part of it must have been amazing. I'm jealous!
Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 15:56
I've had a hard time to find any CDs of his band after Flash called Empire in which he formed together with his wife. One thing I recently found out that he replaced Mick Abrahams in Blodwyn Pig for a short stint but nothing became of it. His solo album, Two Sides Of... is excellent, with Jan Hammer and others.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 17:34
"Two Sides of Peter Banks" was made at the same time Flash was recording their third album, "Out of Our Hands". There was quite a bit of running 'to and fro' going on, and was a sign of the 'splintering' of the band about to take place - the beginning of the end.
The third Flash album -
Ray played bass on a few tracks on Banks' "Two Sides", as did John Whetton, and Flash drummer, Mike Hough, as well as Phil Collins, and Steve Hackett. Jan Hammer wasn't on the album -- it was Jan Akkerman of Focus.
Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 05:19
^^^ That's right. I got the two Jans mixed up. I was thinking of Hammer's solo album Oh Yeah? Akkerman had quite a bit of contribution to "The Two Sides Of..."
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 15:23
Something new for Flash fans!
Collector and fan George Mizer has posted for the first time anywhere,
the only available live footage of FLASH performing in 1972 on TV's
"Superstars of Rock" - https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=481958105281490" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=481958105281490
The band recently reunited and headlined at the ProgDay Festival 2010.
http://www.reverbnation.com/flashbennettcarter" rel="nofollow - http://www.reverbnation.com/flashbennettcarter
More video -
http://www.youtube.com/user/sherrynoland" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/sherrynoland
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 16:06
sherrynoland wrote:
Something new for Flash fans!
Collector and fan George Mizer has posted for the first time anywhere,
the only available live footage of FLASH performing in 1972 on TV's
"Superstars of Rock" - http://psychosync.info/flash/superstars-of-rock/" rel="nofollow - http://psychosync.info/flash/superstars-of-rock/
The band recently reunited and headlined at the ProgDay Festival 2010.
http://www.reverbnation.com/flashbennettcarter" rel="nofollow - http://www.reverbnation.com/flashbennettcarter
More video -
http://www.youtube.com/user/sherrynoland" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/sherrynoland
New CD release upcoming.
Yeah!! CD RELEASE PARTY!!!
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: February 11 2011 at 05:25
Posted By: kglenz
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 20:01
I also have the 3 flash albums and like their music quite a bit. Just wondering if anyone knows about this recent release of some live concert recordings? I've noticed it on LP & have been tempted to give it a try but I thought I'd ask some other "flashers" prior.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 05:28
The only live Flash CD I'm aware of is one called "Psychosync". It was
originally a bootleg of performances from the TV show, "Midnight
Special", and a WLIR radio concert in NY. It was released in 1997 by
Blueprint Records. Don't know if it's still available.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 14:36
sherrynoland wrote:
The only live Flash CD I'm aware of is one called "Psychosync". It was originally a bootleg of performances from the TV show, "Midnight Special", and a WLIR radio concert in NY. It was released in 1997 by Blueprint Records. Don't know if it's still available.
It's just pathetic that the folks that owned "Midnight Special" and "Rock Concert" have not made a better effort to release many of these things ... there were several bands, that did very well off those shows, and in some cases they upstaged the main performer, who (sometimes) was lazy! ... In one of these Carmen blew out David Bowie and got Ian Anderson's ears popping the same night ... and soon enough the bass player was with Ian until his death from cancer later.
There are many stories that can be culled from these and many really good performances ... a band like Flash, or Carmen, had a lot more to gain than the famous ones!
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Posted By: kglenz
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 18:43
That is the title of the albums I was wondering about. "Psychosync" - it is now being sold on vinyl at a few stores in my area, is it a good live album?
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 17:00
That's right, I understand "Psychosync" was first released on vinyl, and a few of those may still be out there.
It's certainly not a good way to be introduced to Flash. Their studio albums are definitely superior. But for Flash fans, and hardcore proggies, it's a bit of an historical document, and a bit of fun to hear them chatting, hear Jerry Lee Lewis introduce them on "Midnight Special", and get the feel of the complexity, abandon and energy of Flash live. Mind you, this was early in their short career. They got even more proficient and 'tight' after a couple years touring.
There's a review here on PA by 'DAVE M'. He liked all the studio Flash albums, but didn't like this CD much.
Here are the liner notes written by Peter Banks - a pretty forthright assessment: (by the way, for those who didn't know - like me - 'vindaloo' is a hot curry!)
"Psychosync" Liner Notes
What’s in a name? Flash was a lot more apposite than we could have ever imagined when I conjured it up over a mediocre vindaloo and warm lager after one of our first rehearsals. Like most new bands, we regarded the name as a slightly embarrassing, but temporary, handle. Eventually divine inspiration would strike to reveal in all its glory, the designated epithet appropriate to the gathering of four young, talented, good looking musicians; it never happened. We were stuck with Flash and seldom has a band so lived up to its moniker.
The music was fast and furious, edgy and seldom relaxed. We were Flash. In our live performances we came on loud and strong with a musical athleticism that sometimes resorted to decoration rather than expression. Our songs became lengthy Olympian events which probably puzzled and intimidated a few audiences, but we never let that distract us, the stage was our domain – some nights I felt John Coltrane, Jimi Hendrix and God were peeping out of the f-holes of my Gibson 335 guitar. We could take one of our compositions, celebrate every corner, angle and riff, and leave it squeezed dry and breathless, often leaving us in the same physical state.
What now strikes me whilst listening to these live cuts is the bizarre twists and turns, the convoluted arrangements, the groove that would suddenly veer off tangentially into yet another riff sounding like it was trying to bite its own tail – all of this sounded quite normal to us, which of course it was not.
We often played ten chords when three would have been better but we could never be accused of resorting to cliche or mediocrity. We were Flash. On a good night we blazed like our name with music that could shimmer and sparkle, twist, turn and dazzle; music that could inspire and agitate in equal measure. For a trio of guitar, bass and drums, we played like a five or six-piece and I still marvel at singer Colin Carter’s ability to sing over the top of music that sometimes had the subtlety and bombast of a world war. “We have no keyboard player; I can do it all on guitar”, was my war-cry, though I sometimes secretly wished for ‘The mighty swirling organ’ of Tony Kaye, who played on our first album.
On this CD live performances from U.S. radio and television show up all the flaws and cracks in our musical architecture. There are incidents when [we] sound like we are jumping through hoops instead of just grooving, or even relaxing. But leisure and blandness was never part of our agenda – we were Flash and we could make a riff stand on its head, walk a tight-rope and through fire – all in the name of rock music. Our songs were long and our trousers were tight. In the short space of two years we recorded and released three albums, had a hit single in the USA, I did a solo album; we toured Europe, America a lot, and even went to Australia for one gig – and still found time to do our laundry. In America we played to the biggest and smallest audiences, the best and worst venues; bars and stadiums. After two years of this we became a really tight musical unit. The performances and the songs got faster as did our tempers – we broke up for all the usual and wrong reasons. A disinterested record company and confused management infected our morale and Flash collapsed in true unspectacular Spinal Tap fashion in a Hilton Hotel in Alberquerque, New Mexico. It was a shame really.
Despite all the usual accusations of pomposity and self indulgence leveled at progressive rock, Flash has a vibrancy and optimism that transcended all the stereotypes of seventies rock music – we really loved our music and sometimes it showed. Our critics and detractors accused us of “sounding like Yes”. Of coarse we did. I was one of the founding members that helped to make (for better or worse – richer or poorer) the strange beast that band has become today. To those critics and fault-finders who expect a musician to re-invent himself every six months – I say f**k you! We were Flash, our life was short but burned bright – we came and went in a Flash.
Peter Banks January 1997
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 04:33
The February Goldmine Magazine is a special Prog Rock edition and has feature articles on Flash, Yes, ELP and Genesis....and more.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 09:50
Vintage footage of Flash in 1972 on "Superstars of Rock"...
Posted By: kglenz
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 13:18
I was just listening to "in the can" last night. Question: I noticed Peter Banks has out other material (besides early Genesis), like "Empire" or some of his solo albums, anything of this similar to Flash or worth a listen?
Thanks, KG
Posted By: kglenz
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 13:22
I watched the video, one thing puzzles me, I could swear I hear an organ...but I don't see anyone playing an organ...KG
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 15:45
kglenz wrote:
I was just listening to "in the can" last night. Question: I noticed Peter Banks has out other material (besides early Genesis), like "Empire" or some of his solo albums, anything of this similar to Flash or worth a listen?
Thanks, KG
You might want to give TheTwo Sides Of Peter Banks from 1973 a listen if you haven't already. Then Focus guitarist Jan Akkerman is featured as well as other members of Flash, John Wetton from King Crimson as well as Phil Collins. Very diverse musically. Flash without vocals sometimes.
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Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:00
kglenz wrote:
I watched the video, one thing puzzles me, I could swear I hear an organ...but I don't see anyone playing an organ...KG
You're right, KG. They're lip-synching to their record, as was often the case in TV shows back then. The only thing 'live' was THEM.
They did perform live on "Midnight Special" and some other shows, but no one has come forth with video yet. Their "Psychosync" album is the only known live performance tape. It's from Midnight Special and a WLIR radio broadcast.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:24
Hi,
"Our critics and detractors accused us of “sounding like Yes”. Of coarse we did. I was one of the founding members that helped to make (for better or worse – richer or poorer) the strange beast that band has become today. To those critics and fault-finders who expect a musician to re-invent himself every six months – I say f**k you! We were Flash, our life was short but burned bright – we came and went in a Flash."
And this goes along with many other quotes and comments on what "progressive" music is, and "must" sound like ... and Roye Albrighton (Nektar) has made a similar comment ... you have to stand up for yourself and not worry about the critics ... and in this case YES became the darlings because they got more famous, and your band and that other one (Badger?) ... could not get one iota of credit or respect.
And still don't.
Maybe there is a reason for the curse around Yes, and all the hatred and rip-offs and stories and problems and what not? Sherry? Peter? ... have you both not said ... good riddance a couple of times? ... I would have!
And to the critics? ... if you worry about the critics, your music is over ... turn out the lights!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: kglenz
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 17:07
Love Focus & Akkerman, I'll have to check that one out, thanks! I though there was an organ...ha ha. Thanks, KG
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 17:13
Vibrationbaby wrote:
You might want to give TheTwo Sides Of Peter Banks from 1973 a listen if you haven't already. Then Focus guitarist Jan Akkerman is featured as well as other members of Flash, John Wetton from King Crimson as well as Phil Collins. Very diverse musically. Flash without vocals sometimes.
Steve Hackett also played on the album, and the Flash members were drummer Mike Hough and Ray on bass. In my opinion, Pete never did as well on his own as when he played with Yes and Flash. He's brilliant on guitar, but needs the writing, singing and arranging talents of others to help showcase his talent. Which leads to a second point --
moshkito wrote:
....you have to stand up for yourself and not worry about the critics
... and in this case YES became the darlings because they got more
famous, and your band and that other one (Badger?) ... could not get one
iota of credit or respect.
And still don't.
Maybe there is a reason for the curse around Yes, and all the
hatred and rip-offs and stories and problems and what not? Sherry?
Peter? ... have you both not said ... good riddance a couple of times?
... I would have!
And to the critics? ... if you worry about the critics, your music is over ... turn out the lights!...
Cursed or not, Yes has done well to keep going all these years. Chris Squire should get the credit for that. As for their material, writing is always key and Anderson gets most of the credit (or blame in later years) for that. In order to PROGRESS, Yes will need some damn good writing going forward. We'll see...
You're right, Moshkito, there is a time to say, "Good riddance" and that's exactly what Flash said to Pete, as did almost everyone who has ever worked with him. He's brilliant, and fiercely independent, which is admirable. He's also so troubled that its impossible for him to deal with the conflicts that inevitably arise in any relationship. He can be very mean and nasty, vindictive and treacherous. Incredibly destructive.
As for Flash getting credit and respect, it was their own youthful, impetuous fault that they blew off Flash instead of valuing what they had done enough to buckle down, replace Peter and carry on (they should have talked to their friend, Chris Squire!). It was a lesson hard learned, and is why I think it's so wonderful that Ray and Colin are together again making great music - sort of like Phoenix rising from the ashes! A chance to redeem themselves. And though they broke up too quickly to have established great fame, the fact that they're remembered at all and have had their albums reissued several times over the years is a measure of the credit and respect they've been given by loyal fans.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: January 01 2013 at 16:58
Happy New Year from Colin and Ray!
Flash just signed with Cleopatra Records and the new CD is scheduled for a March release date. At last!
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 05 2013 at 15:02
sherrynoland wrote:
Happy New Year from Colin and Ray!
Flash just signed with Cleopatra Records and the new CD is scheduled for a March release date. At last!
Ohhh ... I would rather they did it themselves ... and not have to be dependent on someone else saying something that is not there. If the band is to make it from here on, they need to do this in the "new way" and "new world", rather than the old world style, that is long gone, and no longer worthy of their name and process!
Oh well, the least I can do is say ... good luck ... but I think that the honeymoon is over and there is nothing left to look at or play with!
Definitly good luck!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: January 06 2013 at 02:19
It's gonna be okay, Moshkito. The band has complete control.
The record company is distributing and promoting and may even be able to help with booking. That's not something Colin and Ray want to have to do. They'll be concentrating on the music and nobody messes with that! They feel very glad to have a bit of help at this point.
Posted By: lordjim
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 11:17
It's been a while since I last heard 'Psychosync', but I seem to remember that they faded 'Dreams Of Heaven' out just when Peter Banks was just starting his guitar solo (in other words, missing out virtually all the second half of the track). Is there a version with the entire track included?
Thanks
Jim
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 16:12
All the original Flash studio albums were reissued on Cherry Red/Esoteric in the last few years, though you should know that Pete Banks made a deal with them that didn't include paying the other band members, and that still stands today. We don't know where the money is going now that Pete's gone.
You can also find it on ebay and amazon.
If you want to support the band, I recommend the new CD.
Posted By: lordjim
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 14:59
Precisely what I went and did - downloaded the album yesterday. I have to say I'm impressed - definitely like it!
Cheers
Jim
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 15:36
Excellent! I'm glad you like it. It's getting good reviews. I posted a few on the Prog News forum Flash thread.
Like all the Flash albums, there's a lot to listen to and it was made to last. Over time, you may want to get a hard copy. The sound is even better.
Here's an interview that was published yesterday: http://www.musicnewsnashville.com/resurrected-prog-rockers-flash-rock-again" rel="nofollow - http://www.musicnewsnashville.com/resurrected-prog-rockers-flash-rock-again
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 19:24
sherrynoland wrote:
Excellent! I'm glad you like it. It's getting good reviews. I posted a few on the Prog News forum Flash thread.
Like all the Flash albums, there's a lot to listen to and it was made to last. Over time, you may want to get a hard copy. The sound is even better.
Here's an interview that was published yesterday: http://www.musicnewsnashville.com/resurrected-prog-rockers-flash-rock-again" rel="nofollow - http://www.musicnewsnashville.com/resurrected-prog-rockers-flash-rock-again
Sherry, the new CD is great! Colin's voice has matured a great deal, it is a huskier, blusier tone now....I'm thrilled that Ray picked up his bass again, and the album deserves all of its good reviews. Here's hoping they tour!
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 01:00
I think you already know the band was contacted by a venue in Chicago who also hooked them up with a booking agent in Illinois, so it just could be that at least part of the first Flash tour will be in your area!
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: June 23 2013 at 17:21
Two new Flash tracks on the radio in Poland. You can listen here...
Just look at the picture and see if you recognize him. The answer is in the caption below the picture, but don't cheat!
Hint: He's actually a famous drummer...
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 02:05
Did anyone get it right without looking?
Posted By: AreYouHuman
Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 19:38
^ Yes, I did recognize him before looking at the caption (one of "those" faces). Who knew he and Ray Bennett were in the same band? What goes around comes around.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 02:36
Jolly good show!
That was a fruitful time for music, lots of young lads inspired by the Beatles and a sense of freedom that fostered a great generation of musicians that we're still enjoying today.
Glad to spread the news about some of these fellows and give an update on what they're doing today. Still making wonderful music.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: July 06 2013 at 03:57
Another bit of history:
BENNETT & BRUFORD'S BREED BLUES BAND BANNED!!! (Say THAT five times, fast!)
Read the newspaper article on the Flash facebook page http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=336033629863477&set=a.327862620680578.1073741829.327685400698300&type=1&theater" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=336033629863477&set=a.327862620680578.1073741829.327685400698300&type=1&theater
Seems Ray and Bill's band was a tad bit controversial!!
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: July 08 2013 at 15:50
sherrynoland wrote:
Another bit of history:
BENNETT & BRUFORD'S BREED BLUES BAND BANNED!!! (Say THAT five times, fast!)
Read the newspaper article on the Flash facebook page http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=336033629863477&set=a.327862620680578.1073741829.327685400698300&type=1&theater" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=336033629863477&set=a.327862620680578.1073741829.327685400698300&type=1&theater
Seems Ray and Bill's band was a tad bit controversial!!
Bruford looks like he's 12 in that picture.
------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: July 08 2013 at 17:13
Not far from it...Bill was 17, and Ray (bottom center) was 16!
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: August 07 2013 at 04:44
A customer review on amazon today...
4.0 out of 5 stars Strong come-back album. Flash is back!, August 3, 2013 By B. Robindale, Boston, Mass. - This review is from: Featuring Ray Bennett & Colin Carter (Audio CD)
Sadly, I wasn't around in the heyday of progressive music. But coming from a large family of talented musicians who were, I was raised in a house where it was normal to hear Tchaikovsky and ELP back to back on any given afternoon.
While most of my generation have not even heard of Yes or ELP, I've long been a devoted fan of the great musicianship of this amazing time period in rock music history. So along comes a new Flash album! In 2013!!! Really? In 2013? This, I had to hear! Though Flash has always been one of the lesser-known bands of that period, my constant thirst for new music and hearing word of a new Flash album brought me to anxiously purchase their new CD.
Short Version: This is not a 'comeback' album by a band hoping to relive glory days of the past while offering up a mere shadow of previous works. This is a legitimate rebirth of a band that will be drawing more and more attention to themselves as this album receives more exposure.
Highlights: The album features the reunion of Ray Bennett and Colin Carter, the main song writers of Flash's best early material. And the song-writing on this album could easily be argued to be among the best in the Flash library. In fact, I could argue this may well be the best Flash album to date, when one breaks it down in detail and compares albums in this method. Carter's voice sounds more mature and complete than at any time in his career. His remake of Manhattan Morning is gripping. His interpretation of NIN's HURT is sincere and captivating. Night Vision and Ten Thousand Movies find Carter in top form.
The bass work of Ray Bennett has always been a key signature of Flash's sound: fluid and aggressive, driving and creative. He does not disappoint on this CD. A strong argument could be made that Bennett's bass work on this new CD may be among the best bass work out today by ANY rock bassist. It's hard to pick a song that's a highlight here, all the bass work shines throughout.
There's also a new guitarist. Though some reviews here argue that Flash is not Flash without Peter Banks (RIP), I strongly disagree. Bennett's approach (yes, Bennett is also the new guitarist!) anchors the new Flash sound in a way that Banks would not be able to; clearly not for lack of ability, but because Bennett interpreting Bennett's music would naturally be more faithful than Banks interpreting Bennett's music--and of course, vice versa. So this is no slight to Banks, who was obviously a great guitarist and without question, every bit an equal reason for Flash's original success. Two different styles and approaches, that's all. Bennett's approach, though equally technical at times, is clearly more focused on melody and substance. No lacking for nice guitar parts on this album.
The nay-sayers that claim Flash has lost its technical and complex edge are not listening close enough. This music is equally challenging and complicated in its own way, more through composition and structure rather than through displays of purposeless virtuosity, which is very often the downfall of lesser creative modern 'prog' bands. But if you want virtuosity, the new album offers that as well. Again, Bennett's bass work certainly quantifies the album in this area, and though only the first Flash album truly featured keyboards, (compliments of Bank's former Yes band-mate Tony Kaye), of all Flash recordings this album easily has the finest keyboard work. One needs only to listen to the impressive keyboard flourishes throughout Night Vision, or the intricate piano work of the album's closing track, Richerd of Venice, to know that newly acquired keyboardist Daugherty is more than capable of filling this role in Flash.
The drumming is spot on, though the drumming of original member Mike Hough was more creative and adventurous.
Conclusion: Based on the quality of writing and musicianship displayed on this new album, we certainly have not heard the last of Flash. If this album is any indication of what Flash has up it's musical sleeve, they are genuinely 'back'. I think this album is at the very least as good if not better than any recent release of major prog-super-groups or recent more modern progressive bands. Hopefully they will be appearing in the Boston area at some point on tour. I'll be there!
Check this album out. A strong piece of work. A very solid come-back album. 4 stars.
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 17 2013 at 19:19
Boy they spent some money for a smaller band, too bad they didn't make any
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: August 17 2013 at 20:15
Were you being sarcastic, Atavachron? I'm not sure, but don't be deceived by appearances.
Capitol Records spent quite a lot of money. The band was on a small
salary and lots of people were on the payroll. When all was said and
done, I believe Capitol came up short. The band broke up on the brink
of breaking even/pulling ahead.
But what's important to me, is the music. It's still remembered and enjoyed forty years later. That's pretty cool, don't you think?
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 17 2013 at 20:18
Hmm, yes, the brief prog bubble.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: August 17 2013 at 20:21
By the way, Flash wasn't "a smaller band" at the time. Remember, they had a Top 30 hit—still rare for a "prog" band. Capitol was very enthusiastic about them and they were a terrific touring band—better live than on record.
Bubble, or not, it was great time for good music. And that's why I'm glad they're back!
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 17 2013 at 20:36
Flash wasn't a smaller band at the time? Right.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: August 23 2013 at 01:15
Now I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic. You actually don't think Flash was at the top of the heap during their short 70's lifespan. I was gonna ignore it, but I'm curious...
I'm wondering how old you are, David, and how much you actually know about Flash's history. Or maybe we just have different definitions of "big," but they certainly satisfy mine.
They performed with most of the top bands of the day playing before hundreds of thousands of people, they toured the world, were on radio and TV, headlined at Lincoln Center in NYC, hit the charts, have had their albums reissued numerous times, and accomplished all this in 2 1/2 years before breaking up, which is the only reason they didn't become the household names some of their peers became.
I wouldn't call that "a smaller band," no.
"They've got guts, they are musicians with the chops and they've got enough insight into the mechanics of music-making to be able to offer more in the way of intelligent, innovative musicianship than nine-tenths of their contemporaries."Gordon Fletcher - ROLLING STONE
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 16:49
As many of you probably know, ex-Yes and Flash guitarist Peter Banks died suddenly last year (heart failure, reportedly). He was honored on the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame Induction ceremony. The outpouring of appreciation was phenomenal. I hope Pete knows...
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 20 2014 at 17:08
I did not discover Flash until finding a used lp copy of the debut in the early 90s. I have the first three records, and like them very much. I like them more than Yes, itself, really.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: May 20 2014 at 17:33
presdoug wrote:
I did not discover Flash until finding a used lp copy of the debut in the early 90s. I have the first three records, and like them very much. I like them more than Yes, itself, really.
Have you heard the new CD? Excerpts here: https://soundcloud.com/flashbennettcarter" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/flashbennettcarter
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 20 2014 at 18:09
^Thanks, I heard those excerpts, and I liked what I heard, definitely. Very interesting.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 14:25
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
I just took a trip back in time ... got the first album and enjoyed it!
One of the liner notes is kinda funny ... what do I need a keyboard for it when I can play the part on the guitar also ... and Peter DOES!
Did you buy a vinyl reissue, or a CD? I don't think I've seen those liner notes. Anything else interesting? Would you consider reproducing them here for us?
Ray says Flash managed live without keyboards and was so energetic they got by, but he thinks it was a bad decision to carry on without and they would have been better with Moraz who auditioned, or someone like him.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 21:12
sherrynoland wrote:
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
I just took a trip back in time ... got the first album and enjoyed it!
One of the liner notes is kinda funny ... what do I need a keyboard for it when I can play the part on the guitar also ... and Peter DOES!
Did you buy a vinyl reissue, or a CD? I don't think I've seen those liner notes. Anything else interesting? Would you consider reproducing them here for us?Ray says Flash managed live without keyboards and was so energetic they got by, but he thinks it was a bad decision to carry on without and they would have been better with Moraz who auditioned, or someone like him.
Interesting. I guess it would have been great if indeed thay had taken Moraz in. Perhaps he would have fared better than with Yes, given that the story of how he was kicked out was rather unpleasant.
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 02:09
Dellinger wrote:
sherrynoland wrote:
Ray says Flash managed live without keyboards and was so energetic they got by, but he thinks it was a bad decision to carry on without and they would have been better with Moraz who auditioned, or someone like him.
Interesting. I guess it would have been great if indeed thay had taken Moraz in. Perhaps he would have fared better than with Yes, given that the story of how he was kicked out was rather unpleasant.
The story goes, Moraz came backstage after a Flash gig all decked out, with a woman on both arms and said, "I should be in your band!" I wonder if he remembers that? :) Nobody knew him or had heard him play, and were a bit put off. Mike, the drummer, went home with him and reported back that he was a good player. But in the end, they'd gotten used to just the four of them and felt it would be odd to bring in someone new. Tony Kaye was asked to join because he felt like part of the family.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 24 2014 at 14:20
Dellinger wrote:
Did you buy a vinyl reissue, or a CD?
...
Pal ... I had that album cover on my wall for over 10 years!
Along with Capability Brown's Voice
Sherrynoland wrote:
...
Ray says Flash managed live without keyboards and was so energetic they got by, but he thinks it was a bad decision to carry on without and they would have been better with Moraz who auditioned, or someone like him.
I don't think so. I think there would have been a clash of ideas that would eventually hurt more than it would help. I just thought that YES, should have been more respectful and kept Patrick for at least 3 or 4 more albums, but sadly, it didn't happen, probably because of the egos involved. And YES went to a pop'ish concept from there, which might have suggested that Patrick was way too intelligent musically speaking to even be with FLASH. And Peter saying that he could play all the keyboard parts, would not help matters.
Keyboards ARE, and WERE, grossly over rated, because of the grandiosity of its sound that could over power a guitar and singer real quick. But the number of bands that deserve more respect in a progressive discussion are not getting it, because we can't get past the "sound" with the leyboards! We refuse to accept the "same concept" and "idea" with different instruments, EVEN, playing the same part, as Peter suggests. That would make his band FAR MORE progressive than a lot of our favorites, but no ..... we go for the sound, not the music.
The "sound" should never, be a part of the definition!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: May 24 2014 at 15:36
Thanks for your comments, Moshkito, I know you enjoyed those covers! But I'm confused.
Moshkito wrote:
I just took a trip back in time ... got the first album and enjoyed it! One of the liner notes is kinda funny ... what do I need a keyboard
for it when I can play the part on the guitar also ... and Peter DOES!
Flash had Tony Kaye as a guest on keys on their first album. I assumed you read that liner note from Pete on a later album, or reissue. Ray tells me there were no quotes on any of the first three Flash studio album covers. I know Pete said it later, but where did you see it?
As for Moraz, or another keyboardist joining Flash, "feeling like part of the family" is code for "can get along and work well with everybody" as well as being super-talented. That would have been essential and I think Patrick's demeanor upon meeting them didn't bode well. As it turned out, there was only room for one ego in Flash—Pete's. Unfortunately, that's why Pete was never successfully in any band for very long.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 24 2014 at 22:09
moshkito wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
Did you buy a vinyl reissue, or a CD?
...
Pal ... I had that album cover on my wall for over 10 years!
Along with Capability Brown's Voice
Dellinger wrote:
...
Ray says Flash managed live without keyboards and was so energetic they got by, but he thinks it was a bad decision to carry on without and they would have been better with Moraz who auditioned, or someone like him.
I don't think so. I think there would have been a clash of ideas that would eventually hurt more than it would help. I just thought that YES, should have been more respectful and kept Patrick for at least 3 or 4 more albums, but sadly, it didn't happen, probably because of the egos involved. And YES went to a pop'ish concept from there, which might have suggested that Patrick was way too intelligent musically speaking to even be with FLASH. And Peter saying that he could play all the keyboard parts, would not help matters.
Keyboards ARE, and WERE, grossly over rated, because of the grandiosity of its sound that could over power a guitar and singer real quick. But the number of bands that deserve more respect in a progressive discussion are not getting it, because we can't get past the "sound" with the leyboards! We refuse to accept the "same concept" and "idea" with different instruments, EVEN, playing the same part, as Peter suggests. That would make his band FAR MORE progressive than a lot of our favorites, but no ..... we go for the sound, not the music.
The "sound" should never, be a part of the definition!
It seems the editing of the posts you were trying to reply to are a bit confusing. I didn't say any of that, as the quote boxes sugest, but it was rather Sherry
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 25 2014 at 10:55
Dellinger wrote:
... It seems the editing of the posts you were trying to reply to are a bit confusing. I didn't say any of that, as the quote boxes sugest, bur it was rather Sherry
Fixed. Sorry about that.
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: May 25 2014 at 15:12
Moshkito,
I think Dellinger was trying to tell you that the questions and comments above (and below) were from me, not him.
I was asking where you saw that quote from Pete...
sherrynoland wrote:
Thanks for your comments, Moshkito, I know you enjoyed those covers! But I'm confused. You said:
Moshkito wrote:
I just took a trip back in time ... got the first album and enjoyed it! One of the liner notes is kinda funny ... what do I need a keyboard
for it when I can play the part on the guitar also ... and Peter DOES!
Flash had Tony Kaye as a guest on keys on their first album. I assumed you read that liner note from Pete on a later album, or reissue. Ray tells me there were no quotes on any of the first three Flash studio album covers. I know Pete said it later, but where did you see it?
As for Moraz, or another keyboardist joining Flash, "feeling like part of the family" is code for "can get along and work well with everybody" as well as being super-talented. That would have been essential and I think Patrick's demeanor upon meeting them didn't bode well. As it turned out, there was only room for one ego in Flash—Pete's. Unfortunately, that's why Pete was never successfully in any band for very long.
On the point about having a keyboard player, or not, Ray says, aside from having no mic on the bass so it's virtually inaudible, the live recording of "Flash In Public" recently released reminded him of how much better they might have sounded—fuller, richer— with keys. As on their studio recordings though, it would have to be done right. This time around, they have an excellent keyboardist. https://soundcloud.com/flashbennettcarter" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/flashbennettcarter
Posted By: sherrynoland
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 02:45
Got a nice letter from a fan...
Hello Colin and Ray,
I just wanted to share an experience from the distant past and hope you enjoy...
A Flash story,
It was the early 70s, I was a high school student and played bass
guitar (Gibson walnut SB 450) and was visiting Jones County Junior
College during homecoming weekend. By chance a guitar player who was a
JCJC student and I crossed paths. The guitar player was a local guitar
god who played a Gibson Les Paul when it was a big deal to own a Les
Paul. We were discussing music and bands when he told me about a
impressive new band. He wanted me to hear this band, so we walked to his
Mazda RX-3. This car had a rotary engine which was cool in those days.
We go for a drive and he puts Flash In The Can eight-track tape in and
cranks up the volume on his Craig eight-track player. I hear this tight
hard rock band crank out of the speakers. The music reminded me of a
muscular Yes combined with the power of the Who. After hearing this
exciting new sound, I was hooked on Flash. ~ Charles Laseter