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Posted: March 25 2011 at 15:03

Hi,

Nice!

I think that Grado needs a powerful home-amp to work fully.

What cable do you use on your HD25?
Stock cable? Cooper or steel?

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Posted: March 25 2011 at 16:11

...so what's the advantage of using a wire that is a poorer conductor than copper?

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Posted: March 26 2011 at 03:37

Arguments based on real physics ... those don't really fly in audiophile discussions. Wink

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Posted: March 28 2011 at 09:45

oliverstoned wrote:

Hi,

Nice!

I think that Grado needs a powerful home-amp to work fully.

What cable do you use on your HD25?
Stock cable? Cooper or steel?

I use the stock cable, and i dont really believe that the cable would make so much difference, unless is a very crappy cable and a good one Tongue

. Ive been meaning to recable it but just for the sake of a shorter and more easy to handle cord.

as for grados at least the one i have, they are pretty easy to drive, sounds good even from my player directly.

Now the AKG K601... a whole different story, my humble desktop amp cant handle it well, the k601 suppose to have great potential but i am yet to find out.

I am working on moding my SR80i but that is a looooong term project, forst i have to decide what I want and start.

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Posted: March 28 2011 at 10:01

Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Arguments based on real physics ... those don't really fly in audiophile discussions. Wink

you should see the discussiona at headfi, people there go apesh*t about how the cable changes the sound. hell i have seen threads of guys who bought 99% pure silver cable for 4000$ to recable 1 headphone!

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Posted: March 29 2011 at 04:50

Depending on the precise HD 25 model, the headphone comes with a silver OR a cooper stock cable. The silver cable sounds HORRIBLE and you don't have to believe in cables to hear the difference.

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Posted: March 29 2011 at 06:49

Jörgemeister wrote:

QUOTE]Now the AKG K601... a whole different story, my humble desktop amp cant handle it well, the k601 suppose to have great potential but i am yet to find out

You'd need a real dedicated AC-powered home amp to feed him properly.
But to choose, i prefer the more-neutral and extremely musical HD600
(over the 650) as home HP.

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Posted: March 29 2011 at 07:07

oliverstoned wrote:

Depending on the precise HD 25 model, the headphone comes with a silver OR a cooper stock cable. The silver cable sounds HORRIBLE and you don't have to believe in cables to hear the difference.

Why would Sennheiser ship the headphones with cables that clearly sound HORRIBLE? I find that hard to believe.

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Posted: March 29 2011 at 09:18

Because this model is intended for "perchmen", among other profesional uses. When you see reporters outdoor on TV, they almost all
wear this model. That's why they provide the HD25 with an extremely solid steel cable so that the cable is never damaged, whathever the circonstances, but the sound is terrible, musically speaking.

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Posted: March 29 2011 at 09:54

perchmen == boom operator.

Hold-up ...

This steel cable... are you sure the conductors are steel? If the steel construction is for durability then the steel would be part of the armour sheath, not the signal conductor, which would still be copper.

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Posted: March 30 2011 at 01:43

Thanks, i hesitated between the two terms.

Have a look at the product description for these two HD25 models and the stock cable provided:

(So there's no need for

)

http://www.sennheiser.co.uk/uk/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_dj-headphones_502188

http://www.sennheiser.co.uk/uk/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_dj-headphones_502103

Edit: i'm not sure indeed about the exact cable's structure. But my ears were hurt (and not only mine) by the "steel" cable.

Switching to the "OFC" stock cable is a huge improvment, like day and night. It makes the HD25 good whereas IT'S NOT with the steel stock cable. And it's the same step up when switching to a well-choosed "race" cable for HD25, such as an ALO or a Cardas (those i know), another day and night difference. To sum up, it's like having different headphones...hard to believe?

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Posted: March 31 2011 at 05:22

Jörgemeister wrote:

Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Arguments based on real physics ... those don't really fly in audiophile discussions. Wink

Did i told you that i own a 2000 dollars power cable on my home system?

KING COBRA
Retail Price: $1995
Dates of manufacture: 1999 -- 2001

Description: Black shrink-wrap. Gold lettering at ends over large black mesh covered center tube which narrowed nearing AC connectors.

Features:
-- Tech-flex shielded
-- FeSi 1000 compounds
-- Custom made gold plated connectors
-- Cryogenic treatments
-- 8 gauge silver plated copper

Comments: Standard bearer for all high-end power cords. Set extremely high marks for performance and paved the way for the entire after-market power cord category. Many review accolades and awards. Smooth, liquid and refined sound, full bass, analog-like top frequencies. Still a legend, collectors item and favored by many for Digital sources. An excellent power cord, painstakingly made even by today's standards.

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Posted: March 31 2011 at 05:34

What?

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Posted: March 31 2011 at 06:06

Don't be afraid of the snake

You don't imagine the turbo it makes to my system.

"With digital sources it was almost as if we had switched from 44.1k/16 bit to96k/24 bit. We now run all our analogue machines, workstations and the mixing console from the Shunyata equipment."

-- Andy Jackson, Senior Mastering Engineer: Astoria Studio UK

Have a look at Shunyata website:

http://www.shunyata.com/Content/endorsements-Prof.html#Phillips'%20Crest%20National

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Posted: March 31 2011 at 06:40

^ so you have the Hydra power conditioner too?

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Posted: March 31 2011 at 07:19

No, i have other (industrial) filters (and separate/dedicated power lines) but the cables work by themselves.

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Posted: March 31 2011 at 07:23

Another kind of power filters which work well, especially on power amps
is Richard Gray. But there are too expensive for me:

http://www.richardgrayspowercompany.com/

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Posted: April 12 2011 at 13:04

both are HD25-II version

BTW have you or anyone else tried the Sony V6? im not a fan of sony because they always put up so many stuff and most bidget is crap tbh.

But that V6 is a lot of fun, i bought it for a friend and made it detachable cord to get easier on the go. nothing special the mod. but i was impressed with the sound, a bit V shaped but with nice bass and highs, I could totally use it one day or another, its different and would be nice to alternate with the more analytical HD25. and unlike the HD25 the V6 was great out of my player alone, not that the senn isnt but i feel that i am loosing so much without the amp.

anyway just wanted to share, and dont ditch sony for the crap models :p this was a very nice surprise.

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Posted: April 15 2011 at 06:27

No, never listened to it but indeed i've heard that they have some very good professional models.

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Posted: May 15 2011 at 10:42

Anyone planning to get the new beyer DT1350? looks promising, and some pleople at headfi are impressed about it, tho could be only because its new.

however is still to be seen if the HD25 gets a worthy competition as the best portable all rounder.

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