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Smurph 
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 Posted: August 18 2015 at 12:39 |
I have been dipping deeper and deeper into the avant-metal territory, which is the more unclassifiable prog metal. Most of it is on the more extreme end, but bands like Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and this new Lychgate album get me all crazy.
I really can understand someone not liking it because if you told me 10 years ago that most of the music I listened to would be over the top screaming complex metal and a bunch of 70's foreign language prog I would have called you an insane person.
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twalsh
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Posted: August 18 2015 at 12:14 |
I feel like I'm 'growing out' of prog metal. I'm embarrassed by some of the cheesier lyrics (mythology and anti-Christian lyrics eventually get old) now and I prefer more dynamics. musically. I appreciate the aggressive parts in a song more when there are softer, slower parts to contrast it with, so I am moving more to heavy prog.
What hasn't changed is that I tend not to like bands who shy away from any heaviness at all. Aggressive guitar or bass (occasionally, keys will work) showing up is almost essential still.
Edited by twalsh - August 18 2015 at 12:23
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More heavy prog, please!
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Posted: August 18 2015 at 11:18 |
 symphonicman wrote:
I mostly like Progressive metal that doesn't really sound like Metal.
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^this
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Posted: August 18 2015 at 10:26 |
Atavachron wrote:
The real question is why those who like either or both 'prog' and 'metal' don't necessarily like 'progmetal'.
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There is some Prog Metal that I really dig and some that I don't. However, I give the genre a wide berth because it's appeal, to me at least, was that it was a new hybrid. We guitar players were recycling chords and riffs that have been around for over a hundred years, and we were simply running out of ideas. Prog Metal was at least a new avenue.
Edited by SteveG - August 18 2015 at 10:27
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symphonicman
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Posted: August 17 2015 at 23:44 |
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I mostly like Progressive metal that doesn't really sound like Metal.
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Posted: August 17 2015 at 23:10 |
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People are just too afraid to get into music that is not Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Bridge-Chorus. That's one reason. People are also afraid of songs being to long and some songs are a little strange. Those are only a few of the many reasons
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Posted: August 17 2015 at 22:10 |
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The real question is why those who like either or both 'prog' and 'metal' don't necessarily like 'progmetal'.
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HackettFan
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Posted: August 17 2015 at 22:05 |
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Heaviness for me is more about dynamic contrast.
I like Rush certainly, if they're Prog Metal I don't recall.
What DT I've heard is okay in small doses because of the rhythmic variations and tight orchestration. It sometimes reminds me of Hackett's Mechanical Bride, though that's a lot more bluesy. DT does kind of bore me as far as what I've heard from them. Still, I don't really find them all that heavy really and I suggest maybe that they're not a good example of Metal, Prog or otherwise.
I really can't stand Opeth. Too much thrash and raspy vocal, and not a lot happening. You just have to ride it out, it seems, in order to find anything that changes in a serious way. A non-metal analog might be VDGG. I like the droning double sax, sure, but you have to wait for paint to dry before they change anything up (but if you have patience and endurance there are sometimes redeeming qualities). Well, I don't know anything else about Prog Metal, and I'm off talking about VDGG, so...
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Posted: August 17 2015 at 21:12 |
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nice 4 year old thread bump
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Posted: August 17 2015 at 21:08 |
Prog Metal actually rekindled my appreciation for regular (non prog) metal. The Lord works in mysterious ways. 
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Posted: August 17 2015 at 20:54 |
Its not in the music or the type of music that an artist produces. It all boils down to personal preferences. I like prog. No doubt. I would listen to all DT songs. Per album. Up until Black Clouds and Silver Linings. Nothing against Mike Mangini but I like Portnoy. I followed his (very) strange journey, jumping in and out of many bands from Adrenaline Mob to The Winery Dogs (new album coming soon) to Flying Colors and some of his side projects.
I'm also starting to develop a taste for Spock's Beard.
So yeah. You can't force others to like what you like, and vice versa.
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Posted: March 30 2011 at 15:29 |
I like a lot of prog metal. I find there are a lot of new bands in this area in the past 2 yrs, so it gives me the opportunity to do more exploration within the Metal category in general.
Some of the material is very interesting.....it keeps my attention, for example material by O.S.I. especially Blood. Bands like Canvas Solaris are interesting, some say..."its the same thing over and over..." I guess I listen harder and don't see it that way.
I think for me it comes from being a longtime fan of Iron Maiden and Saxon.
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Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:37 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I like some Prog Metal....just like I like some Metal. There is no genre here I think I can absolutely say I don't like. I would say with PM though that if you aren't keen on metal...then PM is unlikely to be your bag.
The reason I like Prog Metal...well it was the genre I was always waiting for to a degree. I liked the sound of metal but it didn't have enough "bits" for me. I'm not saying a straightforward metal song doesn't do the business mind. |
Same ...
My main concern is that if someone is concerned that this or that is "metal", then we're not listening to the music ... and that is not (at all) the reasoning of a progressive thinker and appreciat'or! (is there such a word?)
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Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:47 |
I'm with you there 100%, Karl. That vanilla prog metal stuff is usually not for me.
Also, whoever said that metal has no feeling or emotion is the wrongest of wrong.
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Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:35 |
Interesting question, as it sort of applies to me ( classic Prog Metal is indeed one of my least favorite metals). First things that come to mind are cheesiness, keyboard bombast, cliché high-pitched vocals, pointless virtuosity and shredding, and cheesiness. No, don't like it So how did I end up in the metal team exactly? 
Edited by Bonnek - March 30 2011 at 13:44
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:28 |
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I stay away from anything labeled metal. I usually find it boring and irritating. I like well-timed hooks, natural progression, and strong emphasis on all parts of the rhythm (including the spaces). Overall I don't want a noise blast, I want a sort of ethereal building up - Metal doesn't seem to have that.
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Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:24 |
I don't really like metal so I doubt I'd like Prog Metal.....
I don't like Prog because it's progressive, I like it because it sounds nice. So whether this metal is progressive, regressive, or obsessive, it's still "metallic". I don't mind heavy or dark music, but metal just has a sound to it that I can't take seriously, because, as so many have said, the focus seems to be on getting that thick, suffocating sound. You can instantly recognise a metal song...... and it's not because of the volume or guitar presence, it's because of the feeling (or lack of). Whenever there are keyboards present they seem to be cheesy 90's textural things....... a complete turn off (if I wasn't already turned off by the distortion, echo, reverb and crunch all turned up to 100%)........
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Manuel
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Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:22 |
himtroy wrote:
Really it's the entire metal genre that I dislike a majority of the time. It's just impossible to take seriously, way too repetitive, and the whole shred god approach to music (John Petrucci's playing is technically inclined, but is about as emotional as those joke videos such as "Eric Clapton Shreds", or "BB King Shreds") couldn't be more obnoxious or lacking in emotion. I like Blotted Science a lot, but that is because they aren't absurdly repetitive, and the music actually has DYNAMICS, rather than starting heavy and endlessly cycling through riffs til it's done.
And to me screaming vocals are, once again, impossible to take seriously.
And since somebody brought it up, I do also dislike the really cliche' double bassing. Seriously, how many songs can have a generic 4/4 beat with 2 and 4 being accented and consistent sixteenth note double bass? Way too many.
So to sum it up, showy playing at the expense of originality/emotion, screaming vocals, and a lack of variety.
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Agreed!!! This is how I feel about metal, either considered prog or not.
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himtroy
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Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:08 |
Really it's the entire metal genre that I dislike a majority of the time. It's just impossible to take seriously, way too repetitive, and the whole shred god approach to music (John Petrucci's playing is technically inclined, but is about as emotional as those joke videos such as "Eric Clapton Shreds", or "BB King Shreds") couldn't be more obnoxious or lacking in emotion. I like Blotted Science a lot, but that is because they aren't absurdly repetitive, and the music actually has DYNAMICS, rather than starting heavy and endlessly cycling through riffs til it's done.
And to me screaming vocals are, once again, impossible to take seriously.
And since somebody brought it up, I do also dislike the really cliche' double bassing. Seriously, how many songs can have a generic 4/4 beat with 2 and 4 being accented and consistent sixteenth note double bass? Way too many.
So to sum it up, showy playing at the expense of originality/emotion, screaming vocals, and a lack of variety.
Edited by himtroy - March 30 2011 at 13:14
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Posted: March 30 2011 at 06:15 |
I like some Prog Metal....just like I like some Metal. There is no genre here I think I can absolutely say I don't like. I would say with PM though that if you aren't keen on metal...then PM is unlikely to be your bag.
The reason I like Prog Metal...well it was the genre I was always waiting for to a degree. I liked the sound of metal but it didn't have enough "bits" for me. I'm not saying a straightforward metal song doesn't do the business mind.
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