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Proletariat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1882 |
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like i sayed i like PA as a resource but the claim to being "the ultamate discography" is a bit overstated
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65684 |
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hope springs eternal
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Chris S ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 09 2004 Location: Front Range Status: Offline Points: 7028 |
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Minus The Bear one of my favourite recent findings but I came to the conclusion they are not crossover, as did other team members. I would rather label them as " Power Pop"
Don't know any of the others.
Oh, I am an Indie Fan too but it does not necessarily = crossover
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progkidjoel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
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Foals could be considered progressive at times, although I'd say that their truly progressive songs are in the minority (Spanish Sahara, Red Socks Pugie and Black Gold come to mind).
This Town Needs Guns have a stronger case, and I think they'd fit nicely in crossover, having heard all of their material. They've got a fair amount of innovative instrumentation and some other considerably proggy behaviours on some tracks (Lemur, If I Sit Still Maybe I'll Get Out Of Here, 26 Is Dancier Than 4, Japanese Ultra-Violence in D-Minor, Rabbit) . At the same time, they do seem to mostly be a clever math-pop band more than a prog group as a whole, similarly to Foals. I definitely think that they could both fit here, although it's down to the judgement of the Xover team. Just my 2 cents. |
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Proletariat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1882 |
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Obviously foals and Minus the Bear are a little less obvious choices but I definately see no reason why This Town Needs Guns is meeting so much resistance. and why does everyone hate Marnie Stern? she is an obvious choice for Math Rock... perhaps the Avant team is more openminded now that Xover and Post/Math have made it clear shes a no go?
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The Hemulen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 31 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 5964 |
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I checked out This Town Needs Guns a while back, and they struck me as pretty typical math-rock (albeit pretty boring math-rock).
Still, whilst we're discussing the burgeoning math-pop scene, I'd like to humbly suggest Everything Everything and Dutch Uncles are both worthy of consideration. |
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Proletariat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1882 |
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^^^
I can't believe I havn't heard of Evrything Everything before, this is some great stuff!
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The Hemulen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 31 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 5964 |
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Yep. Their debut's bursting with potential. They're going to be huge. |
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Proletariat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1882 |
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I await the day I hear Math-pop on the radio!
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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Nope! Come on, Cedric Bixler-Zavala can only dream of being as annoying as EE's singer, did you really expect Pitchfork to like them? And before anyone else, I have to get in my no no no for both of those being on PA. |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Proletariat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1882 |
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The Neck Romancer ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2010 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 10185 |
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EE is amazing, those guys have a place in X-over or Post/math here.
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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Oh yeah, while I agree with their overall assessment in this case because I can't stand anything I've heard from EE, I don't mean to defend Pitchfork. I think they're a little more resolute than you're giving them credit for, though. TMV seems to be fairly popular among hipsters and Pitchfork hasn't held back the hate for any of their albums.
I really do not see Crossover at all, and I am absolutely sure they're not math rock. Edited by Henry Plainview - February 12 2011 at 22:06 |
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The Hemulen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 31 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 5964 |
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I'm certainly not going to push hard for EE to be added as they hardly need any additional exposure, but they certainly have their origins in math rock, with two of the core members having previously played in a pretty typical math rock band by the name of Modern Bison. Part of EE's appeal is that their sound is all over the shop, drawing on dozens of different influences and genres and the math rock element is definitely present if you listen out for it. But like I say, I'm totally ambivalent to whether any of these guys actually get added or not. I wouldn't categorise them as progressive rock, but seeing as PA has gone way beyond adding bands formally associated with prog I see no reason why they shouldn't be just at home here as half of the crossover/prog-related groups. |
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Proletariat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1882 |
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lets not let this turn into another what is prog debate, thats the last thing this site needs.
and besides prog died in 89 anyways right?
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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No, that's not what I'm saying. |
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