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Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

There are people who think Relayer is better?


Yeah I know people are stupid.
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They both bow to TFTO.
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Close to the Edge owns Relayer.

I can't believe we ended up discussing this.
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Originally posted by Hanyou Hanyou wrote:

Close to the Edge owns Relayer.

I can't believe we ended up discussing this.


Happens from time to time.
Usually it's beer though.


Anyone else think EL&P isn't really that good?
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Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Hanyou Hanyou wrote:

Close to the Edge owns Relayer.

I can't believe we ended up discussing this.


Happens from time to time.
Usually it's beer though.


Anyone else think EL&P isn't really that good?

I can't judge if they're good or not, but nothing I've heard from them makes much sense to me.Angry

Then again, I only have one album, Brain Salad Surgery.
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Originally posted by Hanyou Hanyou wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Hanyou Hanyou wrote:

Close to the Edge owns Relayer.

I can't believe we ended up discussing this.


Happens from time to time.
Usually it's beer though.


Anyone else think EL&P isn't really that good?

I can't judge if they're good or not, but nothing I've heard from them makes much sense to me.Angry

Then again, I only have one album, Brain Salad Surgery.


I have that, the debut, and Tarkus which I believe is their crown jewel...and out of all that some is good, but most doesn't do it for me.
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Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Hanyou Hanyou wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Hanyou Hanyou wrote:

Close to the Edge owns Relayer.

I can't believe we ended up discussing this.


Happens from time to time.
Usually it's beer though.


Anyone else think EL&P isn't really that good?

I can't judge if they're good or not, but nothing I've heard from them makes much sense to me.Angry

Then again, I only have one album, Brain Salad Surgery.


I have that, the debut, and Tarkus which I believe is their crown jewel...and out of all that some is good, but most doesn't do it for me.

I heard Brain Salad Surgery was their crown jewel.  Why can't there be some kind of consensus on this stuff?LOL

Anyway, I can't fairly judge them when I don't really understand their music and haven't heard their other albums.  But listening to Brain Salad Surgery is more of a chore than an enjoyable experience.  One thing I like about prog is that even if I don't enjoy the music per se, certain albums make me feel like I'm discovering something--it's what keeps me coming back to them and, months later, finally makes me appreciate them.

Brain Salad Surgery just bores me out of my mind when I try to listen to it.  The only prog album I have that does.
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To be honest, Yes would be so much better without Jon Anderson. And CTTE is better than Relayer. And both are much better than TFTO. And all of these are much better than all of ELP's output except Tarkus. And all of this is true because I just said it. 

Damn, we're actually talking music in this music forum... You see? Eventually, we all fall like sheep and bow down to the system.... Government has corrupted our soul. 
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I have no albums by Camel....

Maybe the government will give me some?


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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

To be honest, Yes would be so much better without Jon Anderson. And CTTE is better than Relayer. And both are much better than TFTO. And all of these are much better than all of ELP's output except Tarkus. And all of this is true because I just said it. 

Damn, we're actually talking music in this music forum... You see? Eventually, we all fall like sheep and bow down to the system.... Government has corrupted our soul. 

Actually, I think we're rebelling:

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Originally posted by Hanyou Hanyou wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

To be honest, Yes would be so much better without Jon Anderson. And CTTE is better than Relayer. And both are much better than TFTO. And all of these are much better than all of ELP's output except Tarkus. And all of this is true because I just said it. 

Damn, we're actually talking music in this music forum... You see? Eventually, we all fall like sheep and bow down to the system.... Government has corrupted our soul. 

Actually, I think we're rebelling:

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YES! STILL FIGHTING THE POWER!
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...and showing no regard for property rights.

This is extremely unlibertarian.

EDIT: Unless progarchives is taxpayer funded...Shocked


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Besides Teo...the 4-6 of us have been debating libertarianism for 250+ pages now over 2 threads.
I know I'm a bit burned out LOL
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^I think it might be... The owner is canadian from what I know after all... Tongue
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Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Besides Teo...the 4-6 of us have been debating libertarianism for 250+ pages now over 2 threads.
I know I'm a bit burned out LOL

LOL

Oh I can keep on going... Still my favorite thread by far...
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Besides Teo...the 4-6 of us have been debating libertarianism for 250+ pages now over 2 threads.
I know I'm a bit burned out LOL

LOL

Oh I can keep on going... Still my favorite thread by far...


Well this has certainly been my favorite thread about a topic...(basically not the SR!)
But man I need a break.
Going against 3-5 libertarians was draining, and you appear to be sliding to the dark side now as well. Wink


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What, was The T not sympathetic to libertarianism at one point?

This I have to see.
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Originally posted by Hanyou Hanyou wrote:

What, was The T not sympathetic to libertarianism at one point?

This I have to see.


Indeed he was not. He was close to my side actually!
But if you guys havn't converted him yet, he's heading that way in a hurry! Wink
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Originally posted by Hanyou Hanyou wrote:

What, was The T not sympathetic to libertarianism at one point?

This I have to see.

Go read the first thread to see epic Teo debates. 
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