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Triceratopsoil View Drop Down

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Posted: January 28 2011 at 21:43

The genre of neo-prog is a crime against music, let alone against prog

Edited by Triceratopsoil - January 28 2011 at 21:43

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Posted: January 28 2011 at 21:43

I like The Circus of Heaven, at one point in time it was my Ringback tone.

I must be listening to it wrong. :(

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Posted: January 28 2011 at 21:46

timburlane wrote:

I was listening to Yes' Tormato album the other day - not a masterwork but an album with a great deal to enjoy contained within, as well a the odd flash of genius (On The Silent Wings Of Freedom for instance). However there is one song on the album which is frankly hideous, I refer of course to The Circus Of Heaven. I can forgive Yes a great deal but truly this track is nothing more nor less than a shocking crime against prog with it's twee syrupyness and sickening sentimentality. This set me to thinking and now I give you my top three crimes against prog:

1; The Circus of Heaven - Yes

2; Love Beach - ELP (all of it, it's horrid)

3; The Battle of Epping Forest - Genesis

you of course may think differently...

And what makes worse the Circus of Heaven Crime, is that Yes actually played that song live...

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Posted: January 28 2011 at 23:18

Formentera Lady wrote:

Padraic wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Epping Forest is epping brilliant.

+2

(btw, where do all the hate threads come from these days Ermm

We need hate to measure love by. Approve

Meh, doesn't work as well as the pain and pleasure version, does it.

anyway, calling The Battle of Epping Forest a "crime against prog" is like calling Cheerios a crime against breakfast.

And "Circus of Heaven" is definitely not worse than the UFO song, which is not even half as bad as "Into the Lens"

Edited by Tapfret - January 28 2011 at 23:20

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Posted: January 28 2011 at 23:26

Epping Forest usually gets the most hate (besides the dreadful More Fool Me), but I've never gotten that. I like Epping Forest much more than Cinema Show.

Personally, I've never understood why Abbadon's Bolero is an 8 minute song that exists on Trilogy.

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presdoug wrote:

"Golf Girl" by Caravan

Yeah, it's a really bad pop song.

Edited by Henry Plainview - January 28 2011 at 23:48

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 01:17

Circus of Heaven is quite ok!

Here are much worse songs to be considered crimes:

King Crimson - Cat food

The Flower Kings - Bavarian Skies

Steve Hackett - The Ballad of a decomposing man

Unitopia - I wish I could fly

Porcupine Tree -The creator has a master plan

Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 01:41

Triceratopsoil wrote:

The genre of neo-prog is a crime against music, let alone against prog

What on earth are you talking about? You sound deluded, I'll call a doctor...

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 01:48

King Manuel wrote:

Porcupine Tree -The creator has a master plan

I would say a lot of In Abstentia is a crime, but that's a bit of a controversial statement...

JS19 wrote:

Triceratopsoil wrote:

The genre of neo-prog is a crime against music, let alone against prog

What on earth are you talking about? You sound deluded, I'll call a doctor...

Colin is just trolling these negative threads, don't mind him.

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 02:19

I'm not, though. It's so bad!

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 02:30

Dream Theater - The Test That Stumped Them All. This is the kind of song that feeds the myth that prog is tasteless, nerdy self indulgence.

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 04:51

King Manuel wrote:

Here are much worse songs to be considered crimes:

King Crimson - Cat food

New album!
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 05:02

Snow Dog wrote:

Adams Bolero wrote:

timburlane wrote:

2; Love Beach - ELP (all of it, it's horrid)

It is not all horrid; there is some great music in it. I will defend Love Beach till my dying day!

You and me, pal! Thumbs Up

I don't think they had prog in mind at all when they did it. I regard it as a good piece of 70s classic rock. Definitely not something against prog.

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 05:29

I'm right with you on "The Creator Has A Masterplan" and would like to add PT's "The Sound Of Muzak" which makes my toes curl. Regarding "Epping Forest" I think it's the ill-conceived comedy intentions of the song that really get on my nerves, especially when the rest of the album is so perfect "More Fool Me" notwithstanding.

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 05:54

Starlight Man by The Flower Kings, damn it's so lame... same thing with The Sun in my Eyes by The Tangent, but at least this one makes me laugh, I can imagine a video for this song featuring a young Travolta LOL

But now my branches suffer
And my leaves don't bear the glow
They did so long ago

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 06:34

The Wall.

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 09:17

Seems like most of the offenders are songs that are intentionally funny. Some of you just don't have a good sense of humor.

But if we're going to have some fun with this thread, how about Genesis Scenes From A Night's Dream? Tongue

Edited by Slartibartfast - January 29 2011 at 09:19

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Posted: January 29 2011 at 09:59

1; The Circus of Heaven - Yes

2; Love Beach - ELP (all of it, it's horrid)

3; The Battle of Epping Forest - Genesis

you of course may think differently...

Battle Of Epping Forest is a brave an interesting choice. Personally I find it a bit boring and the main reason I can't regard SEBTP as a masterpeice anymore although I probably wouldn't go as far to call it a 'crime against prog'.

The ELP choice is an obvious one and the band disowned it very quickly.Ahmet Ertegun (the President of Atlantic records at the time) talked them into it (well so the band claim anyway)

ELP - In The Hot Seat is even worse tbh.

Genesis - Abacab (except Dodo/Lurker)

Marillion - Brave (absolutely hate this)

..plus anything by The Flower Kings , possibly the most boring and aimless prog band on the planet (imo)

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