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    Posted: January 28 2011 at 17:44
I was listening to Yes' Tormato album the other day - not a masterwork but an album with a great deal to enjoy contained within, as well a the odd flash of genius (On The Silent Wings Of Freedom for instance). However there is one song on the album which is frankly hideous, I refer of course to The Circus Of Heaven. I can forgive Yes a great deal but truly this track is nothing more nor less than a shocking crime against prog with it's twee syrupyness and sickening sentimentality. This set me to thinking and now I give you my top three crimes against prog:
 
1; The Circus of Heaven - Yes
2; Love Beach - ELP (all of it, it's horrid)
3; The Battle of Epping Forest - Genesis
 
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Points: 756 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 18:03
I haven't heard the first two so I can't comment. As for Epping Forest... it's no Cinema Show but I never thought it was that bad...Confused
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Circus of Heaven I agree.
Love Beach I disagree......not all of it anyway
Epping Forest is epping brilliant.


Edited by Snow Dog - January 28 2011 at 18:12
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Originally posted by timburlane timburlane wrote:

2; Love Beach - ELP (all of it, it's horrid)
It is not all horrid; there is some great music in it. I will defend Love Beach till my dying day!
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Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

Originally posted by timburlane timburlane wrote:

2; Love Beach - ELP (all of it, it's horrid)
It is not all horrid; there is some great music in it. I will defend Love Beach till my dying day!

You and me, pal!Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Epping Forest is epping brilliant.
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Points: 1840 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 18:34
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Epping Forest is epping brilliant.

+2

(btw, where do all the hate threads come from these days Ermm ?)
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The Battle for Epping Forest is a good song. And it's prog.
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"Golf Girl" by Caravan
Russian Roulette by Triumvirat (all of it, it's horrid-especially unpleasant for me, as they are my favorite band)
Gentle Giant-Giant For A Day (i love everything they did up to this, even The Missing Piece, but this is weak and a bad attempt at commerciality)
Wallenstein-Blue Eyed Boys (all of it, it's horrid)
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Epping Forest is from Selling England By The Pound, which is one of the best albums ever made IMHO.
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Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

Originally posted by timburlane timburlane wrote:

2; Love Beach - ELP (all of it, it's horrid)
It is not all horrid; there is some great music in it. I will defend Love Beach till my dying day!

About half of it is actually quite good. Love Beach is a much better album than "In the Hot Seat". As for "Tomato" there may be the odd good song or two, just as "The ladder" contains one or two OK songs, but why waste your time listening to inferior Yes when there is so much better music around to listen to?
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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

"Golf Girl" by Caravan
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Yes - Owner of a Lonely Heart
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Points: 40 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 20:36
Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

"Golf Girl" by Caravan
Shocked

Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Points: 4095 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 20:42
Love Epping--(certainly prog)  Like Circus (come on he wrote it for his three year old son)---not a big ELP fan---so I guess I agree with Beach.
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Points: 6088 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 20:45
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Epping Forest is epping brilliant.
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I think the first one I witnessed first hand when it came out was Genesis' Misunderstanding.  It really was some kind of mistake. LOL

Circus is much better as parts of Love Beach and The Battle.


Edited by Slartibartfast - January 28 2011 at 20:51
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Points: 203 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 21:29
The Battle Of Epping Forest is not just brilliant, it's FU@#ING BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Points: 19236 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 21:41
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

Originally posted by timburlane timburlane wrote:

2; Love Beach - ELP (all of it, it's horrid)
It is not all horrid; there is some great music in it. I will defend Love Beach till my dying day!

You and me, pal!Thumbs Up


Add me as well but......the LP cover has got to go.
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Points: 12816 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 21:43
Originally posted by glenn_ecko glenn_ecko wrote:

Epping Forest is from Selling England By The Pound, which is one of the best albums ever made IMHO.


For me, this is exactly why I may agree to consider Epping Forest a Crime against prog, because it is the one song that brings this album down for me, and won't allow me to consider it a 5 star masterpiece. I would even say the albums survives "I Know What I like" and "More Fool me", which, even though pop songs, the first I would even say is a good pop song, and the second may not be good, but it doesn't really bother me much, and it's rather short. Epping Forest, on the other side, annoys me quiet a bit, and it's 10 min long, so it can't be ignored (it can be skipped, ofcourse, but then you're not listening to the whole album).
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