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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 14:16
[QUOTE=Equality 7-2521]Antagonizing people is a hobby of mine.

SHHHHHHH I DON"T WANNA GET banned for my LSD USE
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Indeed, thanks for the autobiography]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 14:19
More like LSDelicious.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 14:54
But as you know Anton, I don't view the government as this rabid bear (as llama put it) that is trampling around bent on attacking and killing everything.

I know, freedom is doing what you want. So a law (and thus the government) is by nature a restriction on freedom.
But god damn it, I simply don't think the government as an evil entity like you guys.

That simple. Which is why I say you can be a bit black and white. I admire how dedicated you are to your beliefs, but because of it, it's all or nothing.
So in theory, yeah...the government's very existence is the negation of freedom but I try to be realistic, most people are fine with that because they realize that's a bit extreme.Or they just don't care. I'm the former.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 15:21
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

[QUOTE=Equality 7-2521]Antagonizing people is a hobby of mine.

SHHHHHHH I DON"T WANNA GET banned for my LSD USE
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Indeed, thanks for the autobiography]

LOL QUOTE FAIL LMAOOOOOO
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 15:40
I am a Kiva lender.  The website goes through great lengths to inform you of the risk each possible recipient of your microloan entails. 

The recipient of my loan is currently in default.  I'm going to have to go to Africa soon.  Stern Smile

Seriously, the idea is that you may get your money back, or the recipient's business doesn't do so hot and you don't get your money back.  If you get your money back, you can re-lend it again.  You don't get interest, so one may as well think of it more as a charity, only there's a possibility you get your "donation" back and that you've still helped people.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 16:47
So Rob, you'd be potentially on board for my suggestion of microloaning as a replacement (partially) of welfare?

I need to gauge the internet popularity for when I start my Congressional run in a year or 2.Wink
It's an idea I like a lot and is realistic. Never had the stones to get myself to talk about replacing welfare though LOL

Also I suppose none of yall would be into this since it involved government, but this guy at work was talking about how Spain has a national lottery. I guess like the power ball/mega millions/ whatever but it'd be all 50 states. Let's say it was done over a period of time (few months, year whatever)
Would rake in a lot of money for the guvment, and more people would win! May be a smaller jackpot due to that but
if you win a million or two dollars for nothing who's gunna complain?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 16:58
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

So Rob, you'd be potentially on board for my suggestion of microloaning as a replacement (partially) of welfare?


Well, part of what makes microlending useful overseas is the matter of differences in currency.  It'd be hard to start a successful business in the US now with under $1000.

More than that is the differences in culture, though.  I don't think microlending replacing welfare here now would do any good.  That's because a great number of people here are looking for jobs and aren't looking /don't have the skills to start a business.  And there's nothing wrong with that.  Microlending here would bury people in debt.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 17:50
Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was feasable large scale in a developed country. 
Still need to mull it over though.
Not that it matters, the communist revolution is around the corner anyway, I hope you guys realize.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 17:57
I don't know if this is what you meant Rob, but I think differences in cost of living vs. actual currency exchange rates.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 18:07
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

I don't know if this is what you meant Rob, but I think differences in cost of living vs. actual currency exchange rates.


I'm on my fourth Milwaukee's Best Ice.  Embarrassed

Anybody want to microlend me $15?  Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 18:10
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

I don't know if this is what you meant Rob, but I think differences in cost of living vs. actual currency exchange rates.


I'm on my fourth Milwaukee's Best Ice.  Embarrassed

Anybody want to microlend me $15?  Big smile

Oh right, beer money...

* goes off to mug Proletariat *
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 18:14
How has life been by the way, Mr Brown?


(oh and death to the capitalist class)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 18:15
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

I don't know if this is what you meant Rob, but I think differences in cost of living vs. actual currency exchange rates.


I'm on my fourth Milwaukee's Best Ice.  Embarrassed

Anybody want to microlend me $15?  Big smile

Oh right, beer money...

* goes off to mug Proletariat *


LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 18:19
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

How has life been by the way, Mr Brown?


(oh and death to the capitalist class)


I have $37 to my name for 20 days yet I am a Conservative Libertarian.  Tongue

Actually, life isn't so bad.  Smile  My wife got a Lowe's gift card for Christmas, so she is painting our home the way she wants (thank God it's a color I really like).

My daughter is being a disobedient Censored now but she's only 14 months.  Still, some tough love may be in order.

My son is still my son- beyond my understanding of how human psychology works.

And I have Milwaukee's Best, so I'm okay.  Big smile

How are you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 18:20
Yeah 14 months, can't say it's too bad really.
Wait until she's 14 years old and starts purposely being a pain in your ass!
Glad to hear man. Big smile

I've been alright. Working for the man ironically. That's been about it. Making da money.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 23:31
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

I don't know if this is what you meant Rob, but I think differences in cost of living vs. actual currency exchange rates.


I'm on my fourth Milwaukee's Best Ice.  Embarrassed

Anybody want to microlend me $15?  Big smile
 
 
What's that buy, like 40 Milwaukee's Best's?


Edited by manofmystery - January 26 2011 at 23:31


Time always wins.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 23:34
PA light...

A 30 case for $13.
And it  tasted like it.

We couln't even shotgun that stuff it was so awful.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 23:37
You mean, like all beer


Time always wins.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 23:43
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

You mean, like all beer


Was?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 23:48
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

You mean, like all beer


Was?

 
 
awful


Time always wins.
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