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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 04:04
I'd say it's like Zsa Zsa Gabor, so you take that. Zson rae. Or Zson Ruh.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 04:19
^ that kind of depends on how you are pronouncing Zsa Zsa Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 04:32
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

I did not know the right pronounsiation for the word Collonel before last spring, or so.

 I mostly said it as it was written not in the actual way to say it, which is körnel
Actually, I believe it IS pronounced Kelonel, I think sloppiness changed it. the L seems to be replaced by an r giving us popcorn!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 04:36
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

it's the J from the French Jean.

Does the word come from Frenchland, or did we(/they) put the weird J there just for the hell of it?


Frenchland??? ConfusedConfusedConfusedConfusedConfused



It is where the French people live.


So, England is where the Engs live.
Following this logic, I wonder how is called the land of the Irish: Irishland? And for German people: Germanland???

Engs = English, so yes indeed. 

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No, it's... I mean - oh, goddamn it, it was supposed to be a joke!


I think we are all joking here Tongue
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After all, it's not the Engs it's the Englas, with the actual name originally being "Engla-land" (not "Enga-land" as some no-neck football hooligans would be prone to chant). Engla is of course related to Anglais, or Crème Anglais - a crème pâtissière or confectioner's custard whose name comes from the latin Angulus, meaning "a corner" because the pâtissière that invented this custard was usually situated on the corner of the main street. The Gauls (original inhabitants of the land now known as France and not the Franks, who were in fact German, nor the Normans, who also came from Germany, along with the original Angles who came from Jutland - however the mighty Saxon came from Barnsley) added their word for "ground", (which for those not paying attention, is "terre" named after the apples that grow in "the ground" [or "potato" as it is properly pronounced]), making "Angle-terre" as their name for the island of peoples who like to sit in "a corner" while partaking of their favourite pastimes of eating cream custard, (in the form of custard cream bisquits), fishing and measuring the circular displacement of two lines sharing a common vertex, from where we get the two modern words of "Angling" and "Angles" [it should be noted that the famous book by Izzak Walton entitled "The Compleat Angler" is a total misnomer and has nothing what so ever to do with trigonometry, at least none that I could find and I skimmed it twice, in both directions, unless he was refering to the angle subtended by the fishing-line and the surface of the lake/pond]. One interesting fact regarding the Englas is three of them together make a triangle, (whose sides are traditionally labelled "E", "L" and "P" accordingly), which any Prog music aficionado will know is a vital piece of equipment in a modern percussionists arsenal of percussion instruments, and thus the Engla-ish invented the modern symphony orchestra from it's humble beginnings as a bell-like instrument made from a piece of chromium plated brass tube bent into the shape of an isosceles triangle and used by Mike Oldfield for his seminal album and several less than seminal ones - of course a brass tube without the unnecessary bending forms another vital part of the modern symphony orchestra in the form of the cor anglais (etymologically the "cor" is derived from the apple in "pomme de terre" making the whole derivation circular and self-referential). It's worth noting at this point that Isosceles was a famous Roman general who invaded Bretagne (now modern Britney) somewhere between 1CE and teatime, famous of course for having a head shaped like a square-based pyramid. It should also be noted that Bretagne (now modern Britney ~ famed for the manufacture of lances and javelins) was once known as Little Britain while Engla-land (and it's associated kingdoms) were known as Grande-Bretagne. Over time Engla-land became shortened by removing the superfluous "la" (french for "the", but the soft girlie "the" ... also a note to follow "so") - musicologically this is incorrect - to create the correct cadence the "eng" should have been replaced by "so", however the resulting "So-la-land" would have been an oxymoron given the annual number of sunny days annually experienced on the island each year. Transposing the lead note a whole tone (or two semi-tones if you prefer) gives a more accurate and descriptive solution, leaving us with "La-la-land".
 
I rest my case.
 
I must say, I haven't laughed so hard in so long reading EVERYONE'S remarks. RFLMAO Thanks! still 2 pages to go!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 04:42
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ that kind of depends on how you are pronouncing Zsa Zsa Wink
I pronounce Zsa Zsa just as I do Genre!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 05:06
Originally posted by Steven Brodziak Steven Brodziak wrote:

Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

I did not know the right pronounsiation for the word Collonel before last spring, or so.

 I mostly said it as it was written not in the actual way to say it, which is körnel
Actually, I believe it IS pronounced Kelonel, I think sloppiness changed it. the L seems to be replaced by an r giving us popcorn!
It was pronounced Kernel long before anyone ever bothered to spell it, we used the Old French pronunciation of the military rank then later adopted (for reasons unknown) the Italian spelling for the word itself. The same is true of Lieutenant  - the British pronunciation of Left-tenant comes from the Old French Luef-tenant, where as the spelling (and USA pronunciation) comes from the Modern French.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 06:34
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

That's the problem with English, its too much of an imprecise language. 


You mean that the ortography of English is not phonemic, but that doesn't make it imprecise.

I love that my native language (Romanian) is the most phonemic language I know, which gives it a great clarity and makes it easy to learn. One letter can only be pronounced one way, and once you've learn them, there are no special cases to keep in mind.

Same with Czech. Once you learn how to pronounce a letter, you can pronounce every Czech word correctly. (Except for very subtle differences of hard and soft 'i'. And better not ask about the grammar, though.)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 06:47
Español, así como
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 09:44
Originally posted by Lizzy Lizzy wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

That's the problem with English, its too much of an imprecise language. 


You mean that the ortography of English is not phonemic, but that doesn't make it imprecise.

I love that my native language (Romanian) is the most phonemic language I know, which gives it a great clarity and makes it easy to learn. One letter can only be pronounced one way, and once you've learn them, there are no special cases to keep in mind.

Ahem: ce, ci, ge, gi, che, chi, ghe, ghi. :P Russian is also pretty phonemic as well.
Anyway, genre is pronounced just like in French, but with a very posh British accent.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 19:48
I think the US Continental Congress was but a few votes away from making German the national language
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 00:33
In swedish it's spelled ''Genre'' but pronounced ''Schanger''. It's f**ked up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 03:16
Originally posted by Noak Noak wrote:

''Schanger''.


sounds dirty


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 04:50
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I think the US Continental Congress was but a few votes away from making German the national language


if that would have come true ... then we probably had to post in German language here? well, that could make things much easier for me ... Smile



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 06:52
Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I think the US Continental Congress was but a few votes away from making German the national language


if that would have come true ... then we probably had to post in German language here? well, that could make things much easier for me ... Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 07:12
Originally posted by Noak Noak wrote:

In swedish it's spelled ''Genre'' but pronounced ''Schanger''. It's f**ked up.


In Swedish the Danish word "tale" (speak) is called "tal" (Danish = numbers), which is very annoying when reading Swedish texts on phonetics/phonology.

About languages being f**ked up, or not making sense:

It's a weird stand. To assume that there is some 'sense' in the form of some logic governing language use is a false assumption. Few languages are phonemic and none are entirely. Surely, one can think of many good reasons why it should be so - but language is immune to such deductive reasoning. Language doesn't make sense - that's the only conclusion linguistics can reach at present stage. Linguistics is dominated by severe disagreements that has to do with the very core of the discipline - what is a language and how can we describe it? The answers to such questions vary considerably, and the definitions applied are theory-dependent. The most applied and accepted definition is that a language is "a system of symbols". It's okay - but for the layman quite useless. It inevitably begs the questions what kind of system? and what kind of symbols? Those questions are still the challenges for linguistics.      
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 08:40
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I think the US Continental Congress was but a few votes away from making German the national language


if that would have come true ... then we probably had to post in German language here? well, that could make things much easier for me ... Smile

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That does not count! If German were the official language of the USA we would call Microsoft "Winzigweich" and we would all speak German! Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 09:39
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I think the US Continental Congress was but a few votes away from making German the national language


if that would have come true ... then we probably had to post in German language here? well, that could make things much easier for me ... Smile

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That does not count! If English were the official language of the USA we would call Microsoft "Winzigweich" and we would all speak German! Tongue
Nah - far to consise for German - it would be "WinzigelektronischegeräteProgrammieranleitungcodierungsprache"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 09:47
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 09:49
Ooops, I mean "if German were the official language.." and it was already quoted..Embarrassed but you understood anyway.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 13:44
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I think the US Continental Congress was but a few votes away from making German the national language


if that would have come true ... then we probably had to post in German language here? well, that could make things much easier for me ... Smile

the PA is Canadian Wink

That does not count! If English were the official language of the USA we would call Microsoft "Winzigweich" and we would all speak German! Tongue
Nah - far to consise for German - it would be "WinzigelektronischegeräteProgrammieranleitungcodierungsprache"


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that is what I'm missing here precisely ... instead of this simple concise English I would prefer our grandiose German expressive power Big smile






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