Here, listen to this; 

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I like your spelling better than Dean's.    That's what I would have done.

Like Henry with a  "Guh"

I always pronounce it "TIM-BERRRRRRR!!!!

'Cause there's an 'i' next to the 'u' and 'm',

Now write it down slowly

And read it out fast"

 

~ Born on a Horse ~ Biffy Clyro

 

 

Now let's try 'solder'

Ni Idea.  I guess I got it coming........    But you said it first?   

It is where the French people live.

Engs = English, so yes indeed. 

 

After all, it's not the Engs it's the Englas, with the actual name originally being "Engla-land" (not "Enga-land" as some no-neck football hooligans would be prone to chant). Engla is of course related to Anglais, or Crème Anglais - a crème pâtissière or confectioner's custard whose name comes from the latin Angulus, meaning "a corner" because the pâtissière that invented this custard was usually situated on the corner of the main street. The Gauls (original inhabitants of the land now known as France and not the Franks, who were in fact German, nor the Normans, who also came from Germany, along with the original Angles who came from Jutland - however the mighty Saxon came from Barnsley) added their word for "ground", (which for those not paying attention, is "terre" named after the apples that grow in "the ground" [or "potato" as it is properly pronounced]), making "Angle-terre" as their name for the island of peoples who like to sit in "a corner" while partaking of their favourite pastimes of eating cream custard, (in the form of custard cream bisquits), fishing and measuring the circular displacement of two lines sharing a common vertex, from where we get the two modern words of "Angling" and "Angles" [it should be noted that the famous book by Izzak Walton entitled "The Compleat Angler" is a total misnomer and has nothing what so ever to do with trigonometry, at least none that I could find and I skimmed it twice, in both directions, unless he was refering to the angle subtended by the fishing-line and the surface of the lake/pond]. One interesting fact regarding the Englas is three of them together make a triangle, (whose sides are traditionally labelled "E", "L" and "P" accordingly), which any Prog music aficionado will know is a vital piece of equipment in a modern percussionists arsenal of percussion instruments, and thus the Engla-ish invented the modern symphony orchestra from it's humble beginnings as a bell-like instrument made from a piece of chromium plated brass tube bent into the shape of an isosceles triangle and used by Mike Oldfield for his seminal album and several less than seminal ones - of course a brass tube without the unnecessary bending forms another vital part of the modern symphony orchestra in the form of the cor anglais (etymologically the "cor" is derived from the apple in "pomme de terre" making the whole derivation circular and self-referential). It's worth noting at this point that Isosceles was a famous Roman general who invaded Bretagne (now modern Britney) somewhere between 1CE and teatime, famous of course for having a head shaped like a square-based pyramid. It should also be noted that Bretagne (now modern Britney ~ famed for the manufacture of lances and javelins) was once known as Little Britain while Engla-land (and it's associated kingdoms) were known as Grande-Bretagne. Over time Engla-land became shortened by removing the superfluous "la" (french for "the", but the soft girlie "the" ... also a note to follow "so") - musicologically this is incorrect - to create the correct cadence the "eng" should have been replaced by "so", however the resulting "So-la-land" would have been an oxymoron given the annual number of sunny days annually experienced on the island each year. Transposing the lead note a whole tone (or two semi-tones if you prefer) gives a more accurate and descriptive solution, leaving us with "La-la-land".

 

I rest my case.

 

The opposite is true.

More than a vestige.

 I've always struggled with dictionary pronouciations because I've never bothered to find out what (for example) ə means and how you pronounce "ɹə" is dependant on how you pronounce it in other words like the "a" in temperature for example, which can be dialect dependant. Nice explanation Mr Paravion.

 I mostly said it as it was written not in the actual way to say it, which is körnel

Do it French style ... but then, it would still be an insult to the meaning of the word, since what we have for progressive sub-definitions, are not genres ... they are ... (not gonna say it ... and I'm gonna be nice to the musicians!)

Or is it simply some place in Italy that has the pronunciation guide to G***e?

 

 

what about Peugeot, or worcestershire souce,

Worcestershire sauce is pronounced "Lea & Perrins"

 

 

Rather than Peugeot (which will forever be pronouced "Pug", as in Pug-ugly), how about Citroën:

 

A colleague of mine has a house in France and can speak French fairly well, all be it with a decidedly English accent - when his car broke down he went to a small rural garage for help, where he proudly announced: "J'ai un problème avec mon Citron" to howls of laughter from the car mechanics... since it translates as "I have a problem with my lemon"

 

I have a related story but this time it's about a basoon player

 

 

a norwegian big-band (or symphonie orchestra) went to GB to hold a concert when the basoon players instrument had been forgotten in the lougage system. he went to the info receptionist at the airport and explaind what was missing. the problem was that he did confuse the englsih word for bassoon with the norwegian name for the instrument.

 

the norwegian word for bassoon is fagot, which pronounced on english becomes similar to fagot (gay), so what he actualy said to the info desk was "hay can you help me, it seems that I  might have forgotten/left my fagot behind in Norway" ore something in that manner

Arkansas - Ar Ken Saw, though why Kansas isn't pronounced Kensaw beats me

Torpenhow - tra-penna

 

my favourite English place name is Cogenhoe in Northamptonshire - which according to Wikipedia is pronounced Cook-know, but I've always known it as Cook-nah. Many of the places around that area have odd spellings or pronunciations or derivations - my sister lives in Bozeat (pronounced Boje-yatt) - I think this is mainly because it was once the border between Danelaw (Viking) and Saxon (German) Britain so the two languages get mixed up, with Saxon pronunciations for Dane spellings and vice versa. In that area there are two towns 4 miles apart - Irthingborough to the north and Irchester to the south - while you would assume that the "ir" in both names is common, they are not: the first is Danish- meaning the Burgh of the Irthlings while the second is Saxon meaning the Castle of Iron.

 

English isn't complicated - you just have to remember it's more than one language (Celtic, Saxon, Roman, Danish and Norman all mashed together).