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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 17:46
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

But.. But if Prog turns 42, how old is JAZZ???


Older than anyone that's around playing it. Including Dave Brubeck.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 18:28
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Prog fans can't agree on anything.


Yes we can!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2011 at 16:06
Originally posted by Xanatos Xanatos wrote:

In the hipothetic case that we all agree that prog itself became officially a genre since 1969 (or seemed to be so) , we can all agree then that our favorite musical genre has turn 42 by the end of the present year :) 
 
I would prefer to think that it goes back a few more years ... and had started even before that ... since there was a lot of black jazz and blues around, some of which got recorded and some which didn't ... and for anyone of us to assume that music never existed simply because we never heard it, is kind of incredulous and insane.
 
My guess is that music has forever been progressive ... and is now older than all of us put together and then some ... after all Mozart is a massive progression on Bach, Beethoven is a massive progression on Mozart, and Stravinsky a massive progression on Beethoven, and Tales from Topographic Oceans an even more massive progression on all that!
 
I guess it depends on your perspective ... and your age or child.

At any rate ... Happy Birthday!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2011 at 16:27
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

But.. But if Prog turns 42, how old is JAZZ???


Older than anyone that's around playing it. Including Dave Brubeck.


I think I could name a few jazz musicians older than Brubeck.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2011 at 04:40
Yeah, I'll agree with the first post. Prog isn't quite as old as some people think it is but I'll concur that it officially started in 1969.  I was born in 1970 so I'm almost as old. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2011 at 04:45
Supertramp is 41 this year Big smile
Toto is 34 this year Embarrassed
Pink Floyd is 46 years this year Clap
Rolling Steons are 48 years this year Beer


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2011 at 14:41
Pink Floyd don't count because they are no longer active. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2011 at 14:44
I turned 46 last week. Can someone put back the prog starting date by five years to make me feel a little bit younger?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2011 at 15:02
See the Clouds interview for the birthday of prog. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2011 at 15:04
I personally think 'prog' started 1966/67 both in the UK and US.
 
I don't want to argue about it, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2011 at 15:09

Prog started with Sgt Pepper in my view and a couple of listenings to that album will back my views up. Yes, there was developments along the road, but the Sgt Peppers album started it all.... although Revolver was also progressive.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2011 at 18:21
Yes a lot hipothetic case LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2011 at 19:21
42? Really! It doesn't look a day over 35!

(and it still has the ass of a 29 year old) 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2011 at 21:51
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Xanatos Xanatos wrote:

In the hipothetic case that we all agree that prog itself became officially a genre since 1969 (or seemed to be so) , we can all agree then that our favorite musical genre has turn 42 by the end of the present year :) 
 
I would prefer to think that it goes back a few more years ... and had started even before that ... since there was a lot of black jazz and blues around, some of which got recorded and some which didn't ... and for anyone of us to assume that music never existed simply because we never heard it, is kind of incredulous and insane.
 
My guess is that music has forever been progressive ... and is now older than all of us put together and then some ... after all Mozart is a massive progression on Bach, Beethoven is a massive progression on Mozart, and Stravinsky a massive progression on Beethoven, and Tales from Topographic Oceans an even more massive progression on all that!
 
I guess it depends on your perspective ... and your age or child.

At any rate ... Happy Birthday!



Seems a reasonable post notwithstanding the confusion between Prog and progressive and Tales does not represent the progressive classical baton being passed to Yes. It's rawk music. Mozart, Bach, Beethoven and Stravinsky are not rawk music.Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2011 at 12:14
[QUOTE=Xanatos]
In the hipothetic case that we all agree that prog itself became officially a genre since 1969 (or seemed to be so) , we can all agree then that our favorite musical genre has turn 42 by the end of the present year :) 

Thank Albert Hofmann, he started the whole thing indirectly in 1943... :)




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 08:46

I am assuming the 1969 date was chosen because that was the year that In The Court came out.  But ITC did not come out in a vacuum.

In that regard, I agree with the member who dated prog back to Sgt. Pepper (1967) - though one could argue (as someone did) that it began as early as 1965/66 - and vehemently disagree with the member who suggested that "Pink Floyd doesn't count because they are not active."  Who cares whether they are active NOW.  The point is that Piper was a seminal prog album, and we are talking about the BIRTH of prog, not its continuance.
 
In this regard, prog is more likely 45 years old (a nice "round" number) than 42.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 08:53
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

I am assuming the 1969 date was chosen because that was the year that In The Court came out.  But ITC did not come out in a vacuum.

In that regard, I agree with the member who dated prog back to Sgt. Pepper (1967) - though one could argue (as someone did) that it began as early as 1965/66 - and vehemently disagree with the member who suggested that "Pink Floyd doesn't count because they are not active."  Who cares whether they are active NOW.  The point is that Piper was a seminal prog album, and we are talking about the BIRTH of prog, not its continuance.
 
In this regard, prog is more likely 45 years old (a nice "round" number) than 42.
 
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I totally agree with you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 20:21
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

I am assuming the 1969 date was chosen because that was the year that In The Court came out.  But ITC did not come out in a vacuum.

In that regard, I agree with the member who dated prog back to Sgt. Pepper (1967) - though one could argue (as someone did) that it began as early as 1965/66 - and vehemently disagree with the member who suggested that "Pink Floyd doesn't count because they are not active."  Who cares whether they are active NOW.  The point is that Piper was a seminal prog album, and we are talking about the BIRTH of prog, not its continuance.
 
In this regard, prog is more likely 45 years old (a nice "round" number) than 42.
 
Peace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2011 at 19:31
All right!  Happy B-day to Prog rock (or B-year?)

 I'm the same age. I must have been born be a prog rocker.


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