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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:33
Just make sure you get a yearly checkup Rob, to check your liver and kidney function.

And I know you'll pay for it out of your own pocket, so that's on-topic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:59
My girl (who's a doctor) says sodas are worse than beer, and drinking beer is also better than drinking vodka, brandy, whiskey, liquors etc. on a regular basis (I don't know what's the English name of this group of drinks). But that isn't saying that drinking beer is good for health. The only think she agrees upon as being healthy is the drinking of one glass of red wine each day. We do drink beer and cider once in a while, but not much. Our tradition says that one shot of strong liquor before lunch is good for the digestion, but she disagrees, and recently I've read a scientific article saying this tradition is false Angry LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:02
I have a tradition that I have 3 beers before doing homework because it stimulates the mind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:04
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:07
No complaints. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:49
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

My girl (who's a doctor) says sodas are worse than beer, and drinking beer is also better than drinking vodka, brandy, whiskey, liquors etc. on a regular basis (I don't know what's the English name of this group of drinks). But that isn't saying that drinking beer is good for health.


In moderation, I don't think it's particularly bad for health, other than that it consists of "empty" calories and if you're trying to watch caloric intake a glass of wine might be better than a beer.  But the studies done on the good effects of wine have been extended to all alcoholic beverages (again, the key is moderation - 1-2 drinks per day).

Soda really is a complete zero other than it might taste good.  At this point in my life, I've cut it out almost completely.  Most days for me it is coffee in the morning, water for lunch and dinner, and beer or wine in the evening.  Occasionally we'll have wine with dinner or I'll have a beer at lunch.  I'd like to start drinking more tea, which I have rarely.

What this has to do with libertarianism, I have no idea, other than I hope I'm free to continue to consume what I want.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:53
Agreed, and also my day looks almost the same as you described yours. Except that we take lunch late in the day, which is the perfect occasion for wine. (I usually drink after a meal, only rarely I drink just for the fun). 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:54
Beer's problem is the carbs.  Hello?  Where the hell is Mikeo? LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:55
Anything goes in the Libertarian thread. We recognize no central authority with monopoly power to determine what is and what is not proper discussion. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:01
When I was a kid, my brothers and I collected cans to pay for things we wanted.  We'd crush them up and dad would take them to the place to turn them in.

Our next door neighbor was a man named Carlton Adams.  He would spend his entire afternoon sitting on their backyard swing and drinking Olympia beer out of the can and smoking cigarettes.

The man was a gold mine for us, because we'd get a 13 gallon trash bag full of beer cans every few days.  Anyway, I always wondered how in the world a man could drink so much beer like that.  Now I know.  Smile

Thing is, he died early on in my teenage years.  But he didn't die of beer consumption- he died of emphysema.  I don't know anybody else who drinks beer like he did (other than me), so I have no idea how it will affect me, except to say that it keeps my kidneys flushed and my cholesterol in check.

The funny thing is that we really don't even know the extent of what diet soda will do to people in the long term, because we've only known about Aspartame since 1965.  We don't have any elderly people yet who drank 3+ diet sodas a day for most of their lives (although we do have many, many younger people who do, and interestingly enough, quite a number of them are overweight).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:03
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Beer's problem is the carbs.  Hello?  Where the hell is Mikeo? LOL


Depends on the brew.  I mostly drink light beer at night, and so the carb content is relatively low.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:05
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

When I was a kid, my brothers and I collected cans to pay for things we wanted.  We'd crush them up and dad would take them to the place to turn them in.

Our next door neighbor was a man named Carlton Adams.  He would spend his entire afternoon sitting on their backyard swing and drinking Olympia beer out of the can and smoking cigarettes.

The man was a gold mine for us, because we'd get a 13 gallon trash bag full of beer cans every few days.  Anyway, I always wondered how in the world a man could drink so much beer like that.  Now I know.  Smile

Thing is, he died early on in my teenage years.  But he didn't die of beer consumption- he died of emphysema.  I don't know anybody else who drinks beer like he did (other than me), so I have no idea how it will affect me, except to say that it keeps my kidneys flushed and my cholesterol in check.

The funny thing is that we really don't even know the extent of what diet soda will do to people in the long term, because we've only known about Aspartame since 1965.  We don't have any elderly people yet who drank 3+ diet sodas a day for most of their lives (although we do have many, many younger people who do, and interestingly enough, quite a number of them are overweight).

My uncle drank like you. Probably a little more than you, but his liver went out on him when he was 55. 

Small sample size though completely ignoring other factors that determine liver health. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:15
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

When I was a kid, my brothers and I collected cans to pay for things we wanted.  We'd crush them up and dad would take them to the place to turn them in.

Our next door neighbor was a man named Carlton Adams.  He would spend his entire afternoon sitting on their backyard swing and drinking Olympia beer out of the can and smoking cigarettes.

The man was a gold mine for us, because we'd get a 13 gallon trash bag full of beer cans every few days.  Anyway, I always wondered how in the world a man could drink so much beer like that.  Now I know.  Smile

Thing is, he died early on in my teenage years.  But he didn't die of beer consumption- he died of emphysema.  I don't know anybody else who drinks beer like he did (other than me), so I have no idea how it will affect me, except to say that it keeps my kidneys flushed and my cholesterol in check.

The funny thing is that we really don't even know the extent of what diet soda will do to people in the long term, because we've only known about Aspartame since 1965.  We don't have any elderly people yet who drank 3+ diet sodas a day for most of their lives (although we do have many, many younger people who do, and interestingly enough, quite a number of them are overweight).

My uncle drank like you. Probably a little more than you, but his liver went out on him when he was 55. 

Small sample size though completely ignoring other factors that determine liver health. 


Did your uncle drink a lot of hard liquor?  I don't.  I should also point out that I refrain from taking medication that affects the liver (like acetaminophen).  If I get a bad headache, I just deal with it.   I also make sure I am replacing the lost B-vitamins and other nutrients.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:18
No he drank Bud 40s religiously. 

I doubt he paid much attention to his vitamin intake though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:22
In other news, I've lost 8 pounds since I've moved.  Got a head start on the New Year.  LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:23
I'm trying to gain 10 pounds myself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:52
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I'm trying to gain 10 pounds myself.


I'd gladly give you the 10 if I could.

Got about 30 more after that if anyone else is interested.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 13:23
Vitamins, minerals and nutrients are meant to be gotten from wholesome food ......not from pills, supplements etc..........nothing wrong with drinking some beers as long as you don't neglect the body's nutritional requirements.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 13:55
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

In other news, I've lost 8 pounds since I've moved.  Got a head start on the New Year.  LOL

Was it the moving that did it?  I find if you are one of the ones doing it you can't help but shed a little weight. 

Moving experience ahead for us before the end of January if all goes well. Dead LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 14:03
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

In other news, I've lost 8 pounds since I've moved.  Got a head start on the New Year.  LOL

Was it the moving that did it?  I find if you are one of the ones doing it you can't help but shed a little weight. 

Moving experience ahead for us before the end of January if all goes well. Dead LOL


I actually gained a pound after all that moving.  Ouch

All I've been doing really is consciously cutting down on the size of my meal portions- that's really it.  And I grill out about twice a week now.

Good luck with your move.
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