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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 21:45
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I've done my bit to close the racial gap in my personal life. Big smile


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You like your ladies like I like my coffee, right?  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 23:26
I like my women like my composers: sad, Russian, and dead.  
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

 
Because they're getting money stolen from them maybe?

I don't get why people care so much about income inequality. 

Or racial inequality.  I graduated from Fayetteville State University.  I can't tell you how much I got to hear about how we need to "close the racial gap" in America.  That is a concept I'll never grasp the merits of.

And while I'm somewhat white, I'm mostly Cherokee.  So there.

Well, for the first there's all these things on Wikipedia. For the second, you don't find it somewhat alarming that black people are 12% of the population but 39% of the prisoners?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 23:32
Well you basically just made a circular point. We should care about economic inequality because people care about economic inequality. That doesn't really make me understand the situation. 

I do find it somewhat troubling, but a good deal of that is due to corrupt police forces, drug laws, and a terribly biased judicial system. I blame the government for all of those things. Erase them and any racial disparities which arise won't trouble me in the least. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 00:18
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:


Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I've done my bit to close the racial gap in my personal life. Big smile
Go Slart!You like your ladies like I like my coffee, right?  Wink
Yellowed with beer?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 09:40
I got into an argument about the drinking age with my friend last night. He thought that sans laws against drinking, there would be no social stigma attached to children drunkenness to act as a regulating device in lieu of government. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 09:49
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I got into an argument about the drinking age with my friend last night. He thought that sans laws against drinking, there would be no social stigma attached to children drunkenness to act as a regulating device in lieu of government. 

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I find this point rather dubious: sometimes, the law is just the "translation" of a social stigma in the administrative organisation of a nation/state/group.
I've never heard of a written law forbidding incest, yet this perversion is rarely performed. At least, the law only gives details about the way people are punished.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 09:55
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:


Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I've done my bit to close the racial gap in my personal life. Big smile
Go Slart!You like your ladies like I like my coffee, right?  Wink
Yellowed with beer?

You're getting into a whole weird area there. Shocked

By the way this whole we shall never die thing sounds a bit religious.  But then again maybe Libertarianism is a religion and a weird little cult at that. Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 09:57
People get their causality mixed up. They seem to think that laws dictates popular behavior, but popular behavior becomes law. To remove a law against drinking is only to remove an after effect of an existing social belief about drinking.

Clearly in the states 21 is absurd, but it's equally absurd to think that without a law against a drinking age we would see 7 year old kids getting loaded at the corner dive. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 09:59
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

People get their causality mixed up. They seem to think that laws dictates popular behavior, but popular behavior becomes law. To remove a law against drinking is only to remove an after effect of an existing social belief about drinking.

Clearly in the states 21 is absurd, but it's equally absurd to think that without a law against a drinking age we would see 7 year old kids getting loaded at the corner dive. 

I think at 7 I was partial to spinning around and making myself dizzy. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:01
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

People get their causality mixed up. They seem to think that laws dictates popular behavior, but popular behavior becomes law. To remove a law against drinking is only to remove an after effect of an existing social belief about drinking.

Clearly in the states 21 is absurd, but it's equally absurd to think that without a law against a drinking age we would see 7 year old kids getting loaded at the corner dive. 


This is what I'm saying.  For a different example, laws that tell sex offenders they can't go on school grounds.  Okay, let's see here...do people really think a sex offender will say "Gee, I'd really like to have my way with a 7-year-old boy today, but gosh darn it, the new law says I'm not allowed to go the a school or a park.  Aw well.  Let's see what's on TV."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:04
For a multi-billion dollar example see the war on personal freedom drugs. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:05
How was your celebration last night Rob?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:08
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

How was your celebration last night Rob?


We danced (with the kids) to some Chuck Berry, Neil Diamond, Fleetwood Mac, Trick Pony, Shania Twain, and The Who.  Then we watched The Waterboy starring Adam Sandler.  Then we went to bed at 10 o'clock.

How about you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:11
Very nice. 

My friend threw a 'party'. Nobody showed up besides myself and ten of my friends. We hang out every weekend so it wasn't much different. I was on fire with beer pong, but my terrible partner kept me from winning a game. Pretty early night for me; I ended up leaving around two. Good time. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:14
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Very nice. 

My friend threw a 'party'. Nobody showed up besides myself and ten of my friends. We hang out every weekend so it wasn't much different. I was on fire with beer pong, but my terrible partner kept me from winning a game. Pretty early night for me; I ended up leaving around two. Good time. 


I've never once played a drinking game.  I'm pretty sure I'd drink everyone under the table and then some though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:15
You actually end up drinking less when you play beer pong. It's a fun game. I'd play it without drinking.

I don't enjoy drinking games that require you to pound beer. I pay enough for Guinness I want to actually enjoy them. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:23
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

You actually end up drinking less when you play beer pong. It's a fun game. I'd play it without drinking.

I don't enjoy drinking games that require you to pound beer. I pay enough for Guinness I want to actually enjoy them. 


My daily routine tends to consist of a few good beers (of Yuengling quality or higher.  I'm partial to Samuel Adams varities) then I pound cheap sh*t the rest of the night (Busch Light or Keystone Light).  I've been on a wine kick lately too.  Occasionally I enjoy liquor of whatever sort, but not too often.

I wonder how this will eventually affect my health.  All the alcoholics I know pounded heavy booze and developed liver problems.  I drink 2-3 cups of coffee a morning (or tea), about a half a gallon of water in the afternoon, and then beer the rest of the day, and beer is about 90% water. My piss stays clear most of the time, which is more than I can say for soda drinkers (before I could buy beer, I drank a lot of soda). 

I think soda is incredibly worse than beer for a person.

As Redd Foxx said though, "You'll look like a damn fool lying in the hospital dying of nothing."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:27
Your liver might disagree with your beer vs soda assessment. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:29
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Your liver might disagree with your beer vs soda assessment. 


But my kidneys agree, and there are two of them.  Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:32
Ah democracy. 
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