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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2010 at 16:53
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Inbetween 6 and 7.  It's good but not great and also, they left the best song, on the album, out of the movie for some demented reason.

If you're talking about Hey You, the reason is they shot a scene for the song, but the scene really was pretty useless to the rest of the movie so they took it out. I watched the scene myself, and I agree with leaving it out.
 
 
I've seen the deleted scene, as well, and I don't believe it takes away from Bob Geldof's stumbling through life.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 18:00
Hi,
 
It's a very good movie, and the only thing that makes it hard is that what was essentially a rock opera, all of a sudden is just another album of hits and songs ... and the concept and idea is wasted and not worth the discussion.
 
The movie is magnificent. I saw it before it was cut up for general release in full blown quadraphonic sound ... and it ran longer than the videos out there, even today or the remastered lie version.
 
I still think that the movie got cut up badly and hurt in story and concept because of its length and relationship to the album to be released ... you couldn't have the movie at 3 albums worth and then 2 LP's of music ... and it is basically what you got and rock fans are not interested in the relationship between the two.
 
As a movie itself, it is excellent and the cartoons help tremendously to further the story ... but it is way too cut up to create a story that is thorough and intelligeable ... the story itself as shown is convoluted and confusing and you are not sure where things fit or not ... it was a lot of that kind of thinking in the late 70's and early 80's that helped create glam bands and MTV ... it became all SHOW and very little go ... in the end, we love it because there are way too many things in there that are memorable and very good ... but it wouldn't pass many literary grades or even film/movie grades ... and as such it becomes a very nice cartoon and music ... and nothing else.
 
By now, I think that Roger's recent version, is more finely tuned to make better sense ... but I have a feeling that even if it is more political, it is not that complete or that literary and its ability to turn an individual story into a political statement would not be appropriate and in that sense disappointing. ... but as a document of a time, and a gigantic rock opera for which there are almost no equals from our time on this earth ... it is one of the best examples of how hard we tried to make things meaningful and important in both music and film.  And as such it is no different than how convoluted and crazy and even silly, 2001 A Space Odyssey also was ... but we all loved it ... also for its exceptional use of music which made the whole thing look spectacular ... specially if you saw it at the Cinerama Dome, of course, totally stoned out of your mind! ... (and then went to see Hair, next door after that show!)


Edited by moshkito - December 31 2010 at 18:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2011 at 20:07
I like the Wall a whole lot, I've wrote an essay about it in college, made a couple of practical projects about it in Uni.
I don't really care for the film, doesn't really do it for me. The album and the live show I get but the movie doesn't seem anywhere in the same league as them.

Although I didn't find it to be so incomprehensible as it was made out to be, my brother could follow the story perfectly having never heard the album before.

Also I don't like the animated sections or the animation style, just a personal preference thing.

One thing I find about the Wall is that I can't defend it, if I listen to it all in one go on my own really absorbing it it can seem like the best album ever but if anyone else picks wholes in it or points out weaknesses I'll agree and have insulted it on numerous occasions.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2011 at 11:11
10. Going to see it 3 times in MaySmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2011 at 16:02
The film?
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