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Topic: The Wall
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Subject: The Wall
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 23:05
Talking about the movie here.
My family has it's own sort of tradition. We are a very Pink Floyd loving family, and every Christmas my mother, my grandpa, and my uncle would watch The Wall at night. However, my mom would not allow me because she didn't want me to see teh bewbs. However, she finally let it slide this Christmas and allowed me to partake in the tradition.
Now I gotta say that it was definitely one of the absolute coolest things I have ever seen. It has a very deep and hard to grasp story, but even without fully understanding it I truly find something special in it. Now I've never liked The Wall album despite being a huge Floyd fan along with the rest of my family, but this movie really made the music work for me even though I do not enjoy the album.
So, out of 10, what would you rate the movie? Discuss.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 23:06
I would need to watch it again, it's been ages.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 23:07
8. Great movie, every part of it is great from the animations to Geldof's creepy stares. However, it is rather lacking a little something the album had, not sure what.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 23:16
Wow, I also saw it for the first time in Christmas! But long time from now, Christmas 2005, saw it with my bro. Was blown away and changed me quite a lot, hehe, it freaked me out as well.
9 out of 10, it's not perfect, but it's damn original and love it. I consider the movie to be the "real" The Wall rather than the studio album. I haven't listened to the studio album in ages and I'm not really planning in the future.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 23:51
On the one hand, I like it more than the album because of Empty Spaces. On the other hand, a lot of it is really quite silly, especially some of the animations. As I recall, quite a bit of the commentary is Roger and whoever else was on there (Bob isn't on it) making fun of the movie. I probably shouldn't vote since it's been so long since I've seen it to give a numeric rating, but I am quite sure the story isn't "deep": it's just presented in a confusing way. There's nothing wrong with being somewhat confusing, but for some reason people a lot of people fail to make this distinction.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 12:00
7/10.
It's a pretty good film. The animations are cool and the music of course is excellent. It doesn't quite have the impact on e as it did when I was in my teens, but it's enjoyable nonetheless.
The story isn't really that confusing in my opinion.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 12:22
6. Not an awful movie, but nowhere near a masterpiece either. I slightly prefer it to the album.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:14
True story. I had no interest in the thing even though I was a Floyd fan until I saw it at the student center in college on a VHS played on a small screen TV.
Also, it wasn't long after that I was eating out at a Pizza Inn and One Of My Turns was a B side to Another Brick In The Wall in the jukebox. I put my money in for it but it didn't play until we were leaving.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:54
A Person wrote:
I would need to watch it again, it's been ages.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 01:11
Inbetween 6 and 7. It's good but not great and also, they left the best song, on the album, out of the movie for some demented reason.
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 01:25
^^^^^ well you have a stable family..LOL.....sociallly advanced :-)
I voted, prior to seeing it was the movie but I can now say that consicious awareness of what is right and what is wrong is kinda pretty cool
Flip the bird to The Wall and any critics..........
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 02:47
6/10 is the highest I can give (rounding it up a little bit). The movie may be good, but doesn't really work for me, it even turns me off now and then. For the most part, I like the album better, although When the Tigers Broke Free is missing there.
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Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 04:05
5/10. It's an ok movie, with some cool parts. My favorite part was Goodbye Blue Skies, that was freaky!
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 04:49
Aside from the animation and the titties...
I went for a seven. I had it on VHS and got the DVD, but I must confess after a while I've lost interest. I still gong back for the a and t on occasion. Then you can supplement it with the tracks that didn't make it into the movie.
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Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 07:34
I've enjoyed it the first time I've seen it and I still enjoy it now. So that's either a 7 or an 8. ... I also have a very soft spot for Bob, but I don't know why.
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 15:32
manofmystery wrote:
Inbetween 6 and 7. It's good but not great and also, they left the best song, on the album, out of the movie for some demented reason. |
Er??? I'm very sure that "Comfortably numb" is included in the movie.
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Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 09:52
Like you, I've never been a fan of the album, but I love this movie. Mainly the imagery, the animation, and the story is what impresses me so much. A 9/10.
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 11:33
Between 6 and 7. It does have some very cool moments, but I find some of the animations a bit silly. I'll take the album and the live double cd-"Is There Anybody Out There" over the movie.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 12:11
It's been an age since I last saw it, but I always thought this was the worse of the trilogy of studio/live/film versions.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 12:41
manofmystery wrote:
Inbetween 6 and 7. It's good but not great and also, they left the best song, on the album, out of the movie for some demented reason. |
If you're talking about Hey You, the reason is they shot a scene for the song, but the scene really was pretty useless to the rest of the movie so they took it out. I watched the scene myself, and I agree with leaving it out.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 16:53
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Inbetween 6 and 7. It's good but not great and also, they left the best song, on the album, out of the movie for some demented reason. |
If you're talking about Hey You, the reason is they shot a scene for the song, but the scene really was pretty useless to the rest of the movie so they took it out. I watched the scene myself, and I agree with leaving it out. |
I've seen the deleted scene, as well, and I don't believe it takes away from Bob Geldof's stumbling through life.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 18:00
Hi,
It's a very good movie, and the only thing that makes it hard is that what was essentially a rock opera, all of a sudden is just another album of hits and songs ... and the concept and idea is wasted and not worth the discussion.
The movie is magnificent. I saw it before it was cut up for general release in full blown quadraphonic sound ... and it ran longer than the videos out there, even today or the remastered lie version.
I still think that the movie got cut up badly and hurt in story and concept because of its length and relationship to the album to be released ... you couldn't have the movie at 3 albums worth and then 2 LP's of music ... and it is basically what you got and rock fans are not interested in the relationship between the two.
As a movie itself, it is excellent and the cartoons help tremendously to further the story ... but it is way too cut up to create a story that is thorough and intelligeable ... the story itself as shown is convoluted and confusing and you are not sure where things fit or not ... it was a lot of that kind of thinking in the late 70's and early 80's that helped create glam bands and MTV ... it became all SHOW and very little go ... in the end, we love it because there are way too many things in there that are memorable and very good ... but it wouldn't pass many literary grades or even film/movie grades ... and as such it becomes a very nice cartoon and music ... and nothing else.
By now, I think that Roger's recent version, is more finely tuned to make better sense ... but I have a feeling that even if it is more political, it is not that complete or that literary and its ability to turn an individual story into a political statement would not be appropriate and in that sense disappointing. ... but as a document of a time, and a gigantic rock opera for which there are almost no equals from our time on this earth ... it is one of the best examples of how hard we tried to make things meaningful and important in both music and film. And as such it is no different than how convoluted and crazy and even silly, 2001 A Space Odyssey also was ... but we all loved it ... also for its exceptional use of music which made the whole thing look spectacular ... specially if you saw it at the Cinerama Dome, of course, totally stoned out of your mind! ... (and then went to see Hair, next door after that show!)
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Posted By: Gentlegiantprog
Date Posted: January 10 2011 at 20:07
I like the Wall a whole lot, I've wrote an essay about it in college, made a couple of practical projects about it in Uni. I don't really care for the film, doesn't really do it for me. The album and the live show I get but the movie doesn't seem anywhere in the same league as them.
Although I didn't find it to be so incomprehensible as it was made out to be, my brother could follow the story perfectly having never heard the album before.
Also I don't like the animated sections or the animation style, just a personal preference thing.
One thing I find about the Wall is that I can't defend it, if I listen to it all in one go on my own really absorbing it it can seem like the best album ever but if anyone else picks wholes in it or points out weaknesses I'll agree and have insulted it on numerous occasions.
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Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 11:11
10. Going to see it 3 times in May
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Posted By: Gentlegiantprog
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 16:02
The film?
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