Libertarian Thread #2: We Shall Never Die! |
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horsewithteeth11
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 24598 |
Topic: Libertarian Thread #2: We Shall Never Die! Posted: December 28 2010 at 20:16 |
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The original one became buggy so I took the liberty (pun intended) to open another one. Go me!
Let's rank how much each of us pays the government! Or how much the government steals from us depending on which side you're on! Is what this guy is doing worthwhile or not? You decide. |
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caretaker
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 19 2010 Location: united states Status: Offline Points: 288 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 07:15 | |
A million bucks in 8 years. Not bad. As for the taxes, I always end up in that no man's land of paying more every year whether I report more or less income. But that includes state too. The article only included federal.
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 09:00 | |
I don't agree with anti-spam laws. I don't quite see how someone is harmed by having a message sent to an email account they created for the sole purpose of receiving messages. It's largely a problem the market has worked towards correcting itself.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 09:08 | |
Phishing, information theft, trojans and viruses, trick schemes, false advertising, do you consider all these harmless?
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:28 | |
Nope I wouldn't. However, those things can be handled by existing laws against fraud, theft, destruction of property, and invasion of privacy.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:40 | |
Therefore you agree that at least a good portion of spam is to be dealt with (and by this ammend your previous post).
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:44 | |
Yes.
It's just a subset of spam though which is the problem, not spam itself. Just as driving is not a problem, but vehicular homicide is.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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manofmystery
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:49 | |
So, now we know that somewhere around 265-270 pages is where a ProgArchives thread craps out. We pushed the site to brave new territory and the site blinked. Bravo, gentlemen.
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Time always wins. |
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 11:00 | |
I feel like Buzz Aldrin.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 11:19 | |
You did it because of me and my questions. That thread is now the stuff of legend. We should all go have a communal orgy...
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 11:25 | |
You wouldn't have questions with my baffling political beliefs!
I'm in for the orgy though.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Negoba
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 12:17 | |
Is there a such thing as a non-communal orgy?
Though it doesn't get much more libertarian than a hedonist free-for-all.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 12:25 | |
The orgy presents a political paradox: a free-for-all libertarian pleasure activity and at the same time a communal all-for-all socialized ritual...
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Henry Plainview
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 14:30 | |
The upper percentile pays less percentage wise on their income, though, because of the laws on capital gains, investment in real estate, etc. A big reason they pay more of the income tax is because they own so much more than everyone else. The top 1% owns 30% of the wealth in the US and it's not in the link, but I've read it elsewhere and you can Google it, the bottom 50% owns like 3%. I don't see how you can say that the rich are getting a bad deal in America, especially with the extension of the Bush tax cuts.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 14:43 | |
I read something similar just yesterday: http://www.the-american-interest.com/article-bd.cfm?piece=906 |
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manofmystery
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 18:09 | |
With a bunch of people who post in a prog forum? No thank you.
Though if the chick in harmonium's pic is coming then maybe I can be persuaded.
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Time always wins. |
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 20:49 | |
Because they're getting money stolen from them maybe? I don't get why people care so much about income inequality.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 20:55 | |
I kind of feel bad for the rich. Money is cool and all, but it's not everything.
I don't really feel bad about them getting screwed with taxes though. Those people can afford a lawyer to figure out loopholes in the system. So, I only feel a little bit bad for them. The rest of the time they can go f**k themselves. |
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32524 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 20:57 | |
Or racial inequality. I graduated from Fayetteville State University. I can't tell you how much I got to hear about how we need to "close the racial gap" in America. That is a concept I'll never grasp the merits of. And while I'm somewhat white, I'm mostly Cherokee. So there. |
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: December 30 2010 at 21:30 | |
I've done my bit to close the racial gap in my personal life.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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