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    Posted: December 28 2010 at 20:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 07:15
A million bucks in 8 years. Not bad. As for the taxes, I always end up in that no man's land of paying more every year whether I report more or less income. But that includes state too. The article only included federal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 09:00
I don't agree with anti-spam laws. I don't quite see how someone is harmed by having a message sent to an email account they created for the sole purpose of receiving messages. It's largely a problem the market has worked towards correcting itself. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 09:08
Phishing, information theft, trojans and viruses, trick schemes, false advertising, do you consider all these harmless?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:28
Nope I wouldn't. However, those things can be handled by existing laws against fraud, theft, destruction of property, and invasion of privacy. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:40
Therefore you agree that at least a good portion of spam is to be dealt with (and by this ammend your previous post). 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:44
Yes. 

It's just a subset of spam though which is the problem, not spam itself. Just as driving is not a problem, but vehicular homicide is. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:49
So, now we know that somewhere around 265-270 pages is where a ProgArchives thread craps out.  We pushed the site to brave new territory and the site blinked.  Bravo, gentlemen.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 11:00
I feel like Buzz Aldrin. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 11:19
You did it because of me and my questions. That thread is now the stuff of legend. We should all go have a communal orgy...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 11:25
You wouldn't have questions with my baffling political beliefs!

I'm in for the orgy though.
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Is there a such thing as a non-communal orgy?
 
Though it doesn't get much more libertarian than a hedonist free-for-all.
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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The orgy presents a political paradox: a free-for-all libertarian pleasure activity and at the same time a communal all-for-all socialized ritual...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 14:30
The upper percentile pays less percentage wise on their income, though, because of the laws on capital gains, investment in real estate, etc. A big reason they pay more of the income tax is because they own so much more than everyone else. The top 1% owns 30% of the wealth in the US and it's not in the link, but I've read it elsewhere and you can Google it, the bottom 50% owns like 3%. I don't see how you can say that the rich are getting a bad deal in America, especially with the extension of the Bush tax cuts.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 14:43
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

The upper percentile pays less percentage wise on their income, though, because of the laws on capital gains, investment in real estate, etc. A big reason they pay more of the income tax is because they own so much more than everyone else. The top 1% owns 30% of the wealth in the US and it's not in the link, but I've read it elsewhere and you can Google it, the bottom 50% owns like 3%. I don't see how you can say that the rich are getting a bad deal in America, especially with the extension of the Bush tax cuts.


I read something similar just yesterday: http://www.the-american-interest.com/article-bd.cfm?piece=906
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 18:09
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

You did it because of me and my questions. That thread is now the stuff of legend. We should all go have a communal orgy...
 
 
With a bunch of people who post in a prog forum?  No thank you. 
 
Though if the chick in harmonium's pic is coming then maybe I can be persuaded. WinkLOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 20:49
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

The upper percentile pays less percentage wise on their income, though, because of the laws on capital gains, investment in real estate, etc. A big reason they pay more of the income tax is because they own so much more than everyone else. The top 1% owns 30% of the wealth in the US and it's not in the link, but I've read it elsewhere and you can Google it, the bottom 50% owns like 3%. I don't see how you can say that the rich are getting a bad deal in America, especially with the extension of the Bush tax cuts.


Because they're getting money stolen from them maybe?

I don't get why people care so much about income inequality. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 20:55
I kind of feel bad for the rich. Money is cool and all, but it's not everything.

I don't really feel bad about them getting screwed with taxes though. Those people can afford a lawyer to figure out loopholes in the system.

So, I only feel a little bit bad for them. The rest of the time they can go f**k themselves.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 20:57
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

The upper percentile pays less percentage wise on their income, though, because of the laws on capital gains, investment in real estate, etc. A big reason they pay more of the income tax is because they own so much more than everyone else. The top 1% owns 30% of the wealth in the US and it's not in the link, but I've read it elsewhere and you can Google it, the bottom 50% owns like 3%. I don't see how you can say that the rich are getting a bad deal in America, especially with the extension of the Bush tax cuts.


Because they're getting money stolen from them maybe?

I don't get why people care so much about income inequality. 


Or racial inequality.  I graduated from Fayetteville State University.  I can't tell you how much I got to hear about how we need to "close the racial gap" in America.  That is a concept I'll never grasp the merits of.

And while I'm somewhat white, I'm mostly Cherokee.  So there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 21:30
I've done my bit to close the racial gap in my personal life. Big smile
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