Author |
Topic Search Topic Options
|
nacho
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 18 2004
Location: Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 521
|
Posted: June 07 2005 at 09:26 |
It's really good to see that at the end we almost agree in such a sensitive matter.
Now, Sean, I like your explanation as to why the 9/11 took place, but I find a big flaw on it: it was the same people who did the 3/11 in Madrid 30 months after, and that attack was aimed at innocent people (most of them on their way to work), and not at any symbol of Spanish power.
We then assumed it was our former president's support to the Iraq invasion that had targeted us (that, together with the pathetic attempts of that government to make us believe for several days just before the elections that it was an ETA -Basque separatists- attack was the main reason why the Socialist Party won the elections). However, some investigations seem to indicate that we were a target for Al Qaeda before the Iraq affair... Maybe just because Spain was a muslim country centuries ago...
|
 |
goose
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 20 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 4097
|
Posted: June 07 2005 at 09:44 |
Is that not 11/3?
|
 |
nacho
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 18 2004
Location: Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 521
|
Posted: June 07 2005 at 09:48 |
goose wrote:
Is that not 11/3? |
March 11th. Everybody was using the month/day format (9/11) and I did the same (3/11) although in Spain we normally use day/month (11/3).
|
 |
Sean Trane
Special Collaborator
Prog Folk
Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 20436
|
Posted: June 07 2005 at 11:07 |
Actually , the 3/11 incidents have absolutely no relation to the 9/11 attack.
Although the Al Qaeda org has been attributed both (I am still waiting for them to endorse 9/11, as in my rememberance , no-one has claimed responsability on such an horror) , the first one can be seen as an attack against imperialism but the second one was simply a get-out-of-our- country thing/warning: ie you hurt us , this is what we can do to you, please get out! Symbolically innocent people would've had to die since Iraq although under a tyrant rule was innocent of what the Bush administration accused them of.
This is again my reading of those events but discussed with a great many people coming from all horizons/cultures.
You speak of your president but I assume you mean your prime minister! This muslim military reconsquita problably exist thru some hard-liner muslim (but not likely to happen), but if they are to reconquer Europe , they will do it thru immigration and procreation: there are some hints of this plan existing , but no proof!
|
let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
|
 |
frenchie
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 30 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 2234
|
Posted: June 07 2005 at 11:08 |
nacho wrote:
goose wrote:
Is that not 11/3? |
March 11th. Everybody was using the month/day format (9/11) and I did the same (3/11) although in Spain we normally use day/month (11/3).
| the 11th letter is K 11/3 = 11x3 = Kx3 = KKK!!!
|
The Worthless Recluse
|
 |
nacho
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 18 2004
Location: Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 521
|
Posted: June 07 2005 at 11:23 |
Sean Trane wrote:
You speak of your president but I assume you mean your prime minister!
|
The official position in Spain is President of the Government (many of us would like to have a President of the Republic, but...). I guess that's totally equivalent to the Prime Minister in other countries.
|
 |
Sweetnighter
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 24 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1298
|
Posted: June 07 2005 at 13:11 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Actually , the 3/11 incidents have absolutely no relation to the 9/11 attack.
Although the Al Qaeda org has been attributed both (I am still
waiting for them to endorse 9/11, as in my rememberance , no-one has
claimed responsability on such an horror) , the first one can be seen
as an attack against imperialism but the second one was simply a
get-out-of-our- country thing/warning: ie you hurt us , this is what we
can do to you, please get out! Symbolically innocent people would've
had to die since Iraq although under a tyrant rule was innocent of what
the Bush administration accused them of.
This is again my reading of those events but discussed with a great many people coming from all horizons/cultures.
You speak of your president but I assume you mean your prime
minister! This muslim military reconsquita problably exist thru some
hard-liner muslim (but not likely to happen), but if they are to
reconquer Europe , they will do it thru immigration and procreation:
there are some hints of this plan existing , but no proof! |
I'm almost sure that Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for 9/11. If I find something I'll post it.
|
I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die.
"Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend
|
 |
Sweetnighter
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 24 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1298
|
Posted: June 07 2005 at 13:12 |
Yep, they did.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137095,00.html
|
I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die.
"Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend
|
 |
frenchie
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 30 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 2234
|
Posted: June 07 2005 at 18:13 |
aaargh! it's just to poles sticking up! why does everyone think its the twin towers? looks nothing like them!!!
|
The Worthless Recluse
|
 |
NetsNJFan
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 12 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3047
|
Posted: June 07 2005 at 19:37 |
i can't believe some of the things i am reading here.
yes bush is a horrible president, I really wish he lost to Kerry, but how can you justify the actions of Al Quaeda and Islamic fundamentalists?? America is barely imperialistic and had a long history of isolation until we got dragged into EUROPE's messes cause they were a bunch of warlike children, and now they are complaining that we don't mind our own business, even though Europe has done more damage to the world than any other region (they pretty much destroyed Africa).
I just can't believe you people believe this. Arab governments in partnership with Muslim Clergy keep their people in destitution and use Israel and America as a scapegoat. Enough is enough. Its time thye stopped blaming other people for their problems, stopped blowing themselves up and worked at their countries problems instead of blaming America. Israel was founded on basically nothing and today has made itself into a techonolgical and economic leader, because they worked for it, they didn't wallow in self righteous self pity like the arab youth are doing in their slums, prodded by their clergy to hate America.
wow ok that was really racist, but i'm angry, im so sick of this view of victimhood of they've perpetrated on the international community.
|
|
 |
nacho
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 18 2004
Location: Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 521
|
Posted: June 08 2005 at 03:59 |
I think it's time to go back to mellotrons...
|
Eppur si muove
|
 |
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.