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Posted: November 27 2010 at 19:49
Catcher10 wrote:
I don't have a problem with being wrong....but how do you understand the growling?? I mean at least with screamo or plain screaming you can get the words...but with growling its all a jumbled mess of gerbling.....I'm not slamming growling I just simply don't understand the lyrics, content of the music.
I listen to a lot of genres.....I do enjoy some of the music but I get bored cause I am trying to understand the lyrics.
I guess I failed.......
Depends who your listening to, Gojira's Joe Duplantier is very easy to understand, as is Akerfeldt, but some others can be almost unintelligable. Not that I care much, its not that often I follow the lyrics anyway.
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Posted: November 27 2010 at 16:08
Tychovski wrote:
This is going to come off as disrespectful, but it's not intended that way. Every time I hear growling I start to laugh and the music looses it's spell.
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Posted: November 27 2010 at 11:38
J-Man wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Dean wrote:
chrijom wrote:
Never really got the 'cookie monster' thing, just can't take it seriously.
You can start by not calling it "cookie monster"
I do so hate that term.
So do I. My dad (who is also a prog fan) uses that term all the time! Whenever I have extreme metal on, he'll always make a point to do a deep gutteral growl and scream "CCOOOOKIESS!!" just to piss me off.
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Posted: November 27 2010 at 11:36
Snow Dog wrote:
Dean wrote:
chrijom wrote:
Never really got the 'cookie monster' thing, just can't take it seriously.
You can start by not calling it "cookie monster"
I do so hate that term.
So do I. My dad (who is also a prog fan) uses that term all the time! Whenever I have extreme metal on, he'll always make a point to do a deep gutteral growl and scream "CCOOOOKIESS!!" just to piss me off.
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Posted: November 27 2010 at 11:30
This is going to come off as disrespectful, but it's not intended that way. Every time I hear growling I start to laugh and the music looses it's spell.
Edited by Tychovski - November 27 2010 at 11:31
Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, it's a scientific fact.
Early stuff, no. But have you heard there last album?
Sure I did, and there is zero growling on it. Not even screaming. Russell Allen can simply add a certain amount of "grit" to his voice, which he does very effectively. The difference is that Allen's vocals are always in tune, while growling or screaming are usually atonal.
Actually, a lot of growling is at least partly tonal. A lot of growls have a definite pitch you can hum along to, for example, Between the Buried and Me growls. It's very obvious in "Obfuscation" where they even harmonize the growls.
Any ways, I think this is a stupid question. The asker seems to assume they are somehow mutually exclusive. They can both be good in their own circumstances.
EDIT: But yeah, Symphony X has ZERO growling in it... I don't know where you'd get that idea.
Edited by Nathaniel607 - November 27 2010 at 10:16
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Posted: November 27 2010 at 09:15
Mushroom Sword wrote:
JonteJH wrote:
Symphony X growling, wait what?
Early stuff, no. But have you heard there last album?
Sure I did, and there is zero growling on it. Not even screaming. Russell Allen can simply add a certain amount of "grit" to his voice, which he does very effectively. The difference is that Allen's vocals are always in tune, while growling or screaming are usually atonal.
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Posted: November 26 2010 at 22:17
rod65 wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
^ I do like both Epica and After Forever, but would like them even better if they didn't growl. As a matter of fact, I choose the songs I like from those without growling for my repeated listenings.
Now, some weird thing... I really dislike growing, but for some reason I love "Careful with that axe, Eugene" by Pink Floyd.
That's screaming.
Well, now, as long as we're splitting hairs ...
Ofcourse I know Careful with that Axe is not growling, but screaming. However, I guess it's somewhat a similar thing, I mean, surely someone not used to either would easily be turned away by either. However, I do like Carful with that Axe a lot (including the scream), while I find it difficult to tolerate growlings within songs. I guess that if a whole sub-genre of music had been created with such screams as those of Careful in just about every song, I would really get to hate that genre, but as a one song thing, I find it really cool.
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